Do aftermarket wheels invalidate new car warrranty?
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Hi there - Porsche newbie here. Just ordered Cayenne diesel. Deciding if good idea to select standard rims with winter tyres and save the cash to spend on air suspension and after-market rims for the summer. Question is, does anyone know if this invalidates the OPC warranty.
Also - what are Porsche centres like with this type of thing? Merc and Audi used to be great but now treat me like bank call centres with 21 year old graduates reading terms and conditions off the screens - Has Porsche succumbed to that or can you have an adult conversation.
Also - what are Porsche centres like with this type of thing? Merc and Audi used to be great but now treat me like bank call centres with 21 year old graduates reading terms and conditions off the screens - Has Porsche succumbed to that or can you have an adult conversation.
fatboy21 said:
Hi there - Porsche newbie here. Just ordered Cayenne diesel. Deciding if good idea to select standard rims with winter tyres and save the cash to spend on air suspension and after-market rims for the summer. Question is, does anyone know if this invalidates the OPC warranty.
Also - what are Porsche centres like with this type of thing? Merc and Audi used to be great but now treat me like bank call centres with 21 year old graduates reading terms and conditions off the screens - Has Porsche succumbed to that or can you have an adult conversation.
Why dont you speak to them and find out?Also - what are Porsche centres like with this type of thing? Merc and Audi used to be great but now treat me like bank call centres with 21 year old graduates reading terms and conditions off the screens - Has Porsche succumbed to that or can you have an adult conversation.
MTR
mollytherocker said:
Why dont you speak to them and find out?
MTR
What ring around every dealer and chat to all their staff including the service team?MTR
Perhaps ask Porsche people who have been buying their product for 10+ years and know loads of dealers and had lots of incidents to judge them by in real like situations ie. actions not words.
I did ask about wheels and warranty and they said they were not sure at first. Then yes it would invalidate it and then no it might not depending on the type of wheels blah blah - frankly i was not impressed
Carry the other wheels with you at all times? 
In that case I'd suggest you get the recovery vehicle to take the car home, not the OPC. Though, surely even an OPC couldn't claim engine damage from aftermarket rims? Could they? Might as well tell you that, since your wife wasn't built in Stuttgart, the warranty was invalidated when she got in the passenger seat...
In that case I'd suggest you get the recovery vehicle to take the car home, not the OPC. Though, surely even an OPC couldn't claim engine damage from aftermarket rims? Could they? Might as well tell you that, since your wife wasn't built in Stuttgart, the warranty was invalidated when she got in the passenger seat...
fatboy21 said:
Hi there - Porsche newbie here. Just ordered Cayenne diesel. Deciding if good idea to select standard rims with winter tyres and save the cash to spend on air suspension and after-market rims for the summer. Question is, does anyone know if this invalidates the OPC warranty.
Also - what are Porsche centres like with this type of thing? Merc and Audi used to be great but now treat me like bank call centres with 21 year old graduates reading terms and conditions off the screens - Has Porsche succumbed to that or can you have an adult conversation.
Why not just get Porsche standard rims now and Porsche alloys at the later date?Also - what are Porsche centres like with this type of thing? Merc and Audi used to be great but now treat me like bank call centres with 21 year old graduates reading terms and conditions off the screens - Has Porsche succumbed to that or can you have an adult conversation.
They can't say a thing then as all OEM equipment.
(make sure you only drive through Posche approved snow this winter though)
I can't help but think every response in this thread is wrong.
Putting on your own wheels will NOT invalidate any warranty (regardless of the terms of the warranty).
To invalidate a warranty it has to be proved that the non standard part led to the failure of whatever goes wrong.
If you put on non standard wheels and the engine or exhaust broke (for example) then Porsche would have to fix it.
Putting on your own wheels will NOT invalidate any warranty (regardless of the terms of the warranty).
To invalidate a warranty it has to be proved that the non standard part led to the failure of whatever goes wrong.
If you put on non standard wheels and the engine or exhaust broke (for example) then Porsche would have to fix it.
DayTrader said:
I can't help but think every response in this thread is wrong.
Putting on your own wheels will NOT invalidate any warranty (regardless of the terms of the warranty).
To invalidate a warranty it has to be proved that the non standard part led to the failure of whatever goes wrong.
If you put on non standard wheels and the engine or exhaust broke (for example) then Porsche would have to fix it.
10 years ago i would have assumed what you are saying to be the case sort of instictively. After all, it would be punative and anti-competitive to prevent a customer modifying their vehicle responsibly. And the burden of proof would be on the OEM to show that any damage was not their liability due to the customer using non Porsche parts. Putting on your own wheels will NOT invalidate any warranty (regardless of the terms of the warranty).
To invalidate a warranty it has to be proved that the non standard part led to the failure of whatever goes wrong.
If you put on non standard wheels and the engine or exhaust broke (for example) then Porsche would have to fix it.
BUT - these days common sense and my significant litigation experience seems to be eroded in a cacophony of call centre 'reckons' and murmurs and bewildering terms and conditions. Unless you want to fight you have to take the dealer at their word and this is what they are saying to me. I dont want to fight. I want to enjoy a new car buying experience.
£3,900 for 21 inch rims is a total rip off and i can do a lot better with aftermarket rims - why should i not be able to buy alternative manufacturer products.
Many thanks for your post... I'd love to hear from others too
DayTrader said:
I can't help but think every response in this thread is wrong.
Putting on your own wheels will NOT invalidate any warranty (regardless of the terms of the warranty).
To invalidate a warranty it has to be proved that the non standard part led to the failure of whatever goes wrong.
If you put on non standard wheels and the engine or exhaust broke (for example) then Porsche would have to fix it.
Well you're response is certainly incorrect. Almost all extended warranties are insurance based contracts that can and do have whatever terms they wish to offer. Putting on your own wheels will NOT invalidate any warranty (regardless of the terms of the warranty).
To invalidate a warranty it has to be proved that the non standard part led to the failure of whatever goes wrong.
If you put on non standard wheels and the engine or exhaust broke (for example) then Porsche would have to fix it.
Porsche's extended warranty in 2009 would certainly have been invalid if AM wheels were fitted. Since then they have relaxed their conditions but it would certainly be worth checking.
OE warranties are a different thing of course and work much like you say.
DSM2 said:
Well you're response is certainly incorrect. Almost all extended warranties are insurance based contracts that can and do have whatever terms they wish to offer.
Porsche's extended warranty in 2009 would certainly have been invalid if AM wheels were fitted. Since then they have relaxed their conditions but it would certainly be worth checking.
OE warranties are a different thing of course and work much like you say.
I thought the OP was referring to the factory warranty as he has just ordered the car?Porsche's extended warranty in 2009 would certainly have been invalid if AM wheels were fitted. Since then they have relaxed their conditions but it would certainly be worth checking.
OE warranties are a different thing of course and work much like you say.
Forgive me - I do not know what OE and OPC means.
Actus Reus said:
Is the Porsche Warranty available to read online anywhere? Would love to actually read the small print as a lot of my 'knowledge' is based on PH and, as the OP says, a lot or 'I reckon' and 'probably' from various OPC sources...
This is a good place to start, though that isn't the document I received when I took out extended warranty recently (which describes the underwriter, etc)Others have basically described it already but the factory warranty is something Porsche are obliged to provide, and legally cannot refuse warranty service in the event of a failure unrelated to a modified part. Block exemption laws and other things mean Porsche don't make the rules with the factory warranty.
The Porsche extended warranty is an insurance contract (it literally is) which stipulates, among other things, that coverage is not provided where:
Porsche said:
The Vehicle has been modified in a manner not
formally approved by Us or the Manufacturer,
irrespective of whether the modification took
place before or during the Period of Cover;
formally approved by Us or the Manufacturer,
irrespective of whether the modification took
place before or during the Period of Cover;
Edited by Durzel on Friday 2nd December 14:39
Durzel said:
Edited by Durzel on Friday 2nd December 14:39
I think i would be unlikely to keep the car beyond the factory warranty and/or would not have an extended warranty so i think i will be ok. This is a huge bonus. I can get the standard 18 inch rims with chunky offroad winter tyres and buy some nice big alloys later. Found some nice ones already!
DayTrader said:
DSM2 said:
Well you're response is certainly incorrect. Almost all extended warranties are insurance based contracts that can and do have whatever terms they wish to offer.
Porsche's extended warranty in 2009 would certainly have been invalid if AM wheels were fitted. Since then they have relaxed their conditions but it would certainly be worth checking.
OE warranties are a different thing of course and work much like you say.
I thought the OP was referring to the factory warranty as he has just ordered the car?Porsche's extended warranty in 2009 would certainly have been invalid if AM wheels were fitted. Since then they have relaxed their conditions but it would certainly be worth checking.
OE warranties are a different thing of course and work much like you say.
Forgive me - I do not know what OE and OPC means.
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