996 TT v 997 C4S
Discussion
Two completely different cars I know...!!!!
You will see from my 997 C4S thread HERE , that when looking at one, I also saw a 996TT...
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale.php?pag...
I don't know much about the 996TT tbh, only that the engine is near bullet proof, as made from the same underpins/block as the GT1 winning car in 1991. What do I need to be aware of?
Is tiptronic ok on the Turbo or should they really be manual? The C4S I wouldn't consider anything but a manual.
Yes all cars go down, but will the 996TT hold it's value more than a 997 C4S?
(in particular the two cars pictured above)
Many thanks...
Xstyle
You will see from my 997 C4S thread HERE , that when looking at one, I also saw a 996TT...
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale.php?pag...
I don't know much about the 996TT tbh, only that the engine is near bullet proof, as made from the same underpins/block as the GT1 winning car in 1991. What do I need to be aware of?
Is tiptronic ok on the Turbo or should they really be manual? The C4S I wouldn't consider anything but a manual.
Yes all cars go down, but will the 996TT hold it's value more than a 997 C4S?
(in particular the two cars pictured above)
Many thanks...
Xstyle
You need to drive them both. I used to hate tips but recently drove a 7t tip and was impressed with it. The tip suits the turbo's torquey power delivery and I'm going soft in my old age. I'd personally find an X50 or turbo s and have an OPC warranty stuck on it if its a daily driver.
Having said that the 7 C4s is also a fine car! Choices!! I'd still buy a manual I think as they're so much more fun.
Having said that the 7 C4s is also a fine car! Choices!! I'd still buy a manual I think as they're so much more fun.
Magic919 said:
The tip in the 996TT feels like a normal auto box. Some like it, but I prefer the manual. If you just like to plant your right boot and keep your hands on the wheel, it's great. I've not driven any PDK Pork, only Italian flappy paddle stuff, but I think I prefer those to a tip.
I have a tip and love it...with all that power it certainly is valuable to have both hands on the wheel, and the gearbox does work well - of course you will only know if you try one!p.s. 6tt over the 997 any day
Out of the two....997 4s manual is the way to go.........wait till you can afford a pdk if you want to go the auto option....tip/pdk do feel like a video game though......u may go faster but the involvement of a manual is what it's all about...997 is a better place to sit as well with a more updated interior....take them both for a test drive..
btw- I would still consider a manual 997s- the wider rear in the 4s is not as evident as was in the 996 4s (which do still look the bomb)...that would be the only thing that appeals more in the 4s over the s....and there is far more choice in the 997s market right now....I was going through the same deliberations as you and have not regretted a single second.
Good luck!
btw- I would still consider a manual 997s- the wider rear in the 4s is not as evident as was in the 996 4s (which do still look the bomb)...that would be the only thing that appeals more in the 4s over the s....and there is far more choice in the 997s market right now....I was going through the same deliberations as you and have not regretted a single second.
Good luck!
Magic919 said:
The tip in the 996TT feels like a normal auto box. Some like it, but I prefer the manual. If you just like to plant your right boot and keep your hands on the wheel, it's great. I've not driven any PDK Pork, only Italian flappy paddle stuff, but I think I prefer those to a tip.
You have the manual override on the steering wheel on the tip...Magic919 said:
Yes, I'm aware of that. You'll need the buttons to get it to pull away in first, for example. If you don't mind the feel of a car with a slush box, it's ok. I've driven manual and tiptronic 996 TT and I prefer manual. Some folk much refer the tip.
I prefer manual, anyday. Heck even my BMW 320D is fun in manual, it's that feeling of more control...OK, so lets start the question again... 996TT v 997C4S, both manual... I think thats a rather silly question, I think people would go for the 996TT! BUT WHAT IF I said they were the same price, at c. £35k?
Xstyle said:
I prefer manual, anyday. Heck even my BMW 320D is fun in manual, it's that feeling of more control...
OK, so lets start the question again... 996TT v 997C4S, both manual... I think thats a rather silly question, I think people would go for the 996TT! BUT WHAT IF I said they were the same price, at c. £35k?
overpriced? in the calssifieds there are sooo many tips for sale! On AT, there is a 50/50 split on Tips and Manual. Would you buy a 996TT over £30k? OK, so lets start the question again... 996TT v 997C4S, both manual... I think thats a rather silly question, I think people would go for the 996TT! BUT WHAT IF I said they were the same price, at c. £35k?
I am now considering MANUAL 996TT v 997C4S ... so the auto pictured above is now out of my mind.
Question is, for £35k ish, give or take, what is the better value?
Here is a discussion from 2008, its great to look back at others posts and discussions...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=591...
3/4 years on, the question is being asked again, this time by me...
Question is, for £35k ish, give or take, what is the better value?
Here is a discussion from 2008, its great to look back at others posts and discussions...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=591...
3/4 years on, the question is being asked again, this time by me...
mm450exc said:
Drive both and see. But I bet it will be the turbo... 
The Turbo is be more fun to drive, went in one yesterday. Are they actually WORTH the same though?The 997 C4S has other benefits... so its weighing it all up. Just want to know about prices, before I go and buy a 996 TT for £35k, and then people say it was only worth £30k!
Xstyle said:
mm450exc said:
Drive both and see. But I bet it will be the turbo...
The Turbo is be more fun to drive, went in one yesterday. Are they actually WORTH the same though?The 997 C4S has other benefits... so its weighing it all up. Just want to know about prices, before I go and buy a 996 TT for £35k, and then people say it was only worth £30k!
mm450exc said:
The turbo has 4 wheel drive. You have a fully serviceable racing block in the rear - the Mezger.
996 turbo is worth more if you consider how valuable a Mezger engine is. They're just supremely undervalued at the moment primarily because a turbo may cost more to run in my view if you actually plan to use it. Have a look at Dazren's breakdown of running costs in his garage for 996t.Xstyle,
nothing wrong with being careful but I think you're thinking about this waaaaaaaay too much. There is no perfect 911.
Except all of them.
It's your choice and dont let anyone else influence you.
I've got a manual black 997.1 c4s cab with all the bells and whistles, adaptive heated seats, sports exhaust totally unplugged - one of my best mates has got a bog standard 997.2 c2 cab with PSE and pdk and he loves his just as much as I love mine. Mine makes a better noise but his is faster. Neither of us would swap.
Just buy one.
Whatever you get you'll like it, trust me. And if you REALLY feel you've made the wrong choice it won't be that hard to change, there are squillions out there.
Difference is you'll have a 911 while you are deliberating.
nothing wrong with being careful but I think you're thinking about this waaaaaaaay too much. There is no perfect 911.
Except all of them.
It's your choice and dont let anyone else influence you.
I've got a manual black 997.1 c4s cab with all the bells and whistles, adaptive heated seats, sports exhaust totally unplugged - one of my best mates has got a bog standard 997.2 c2 cab with PSE and pdk and he loves his just as much as I love mine. Mine makes a better noise but his is faster. Neither of us would swap.
Just buy one.
Whatever you get you'll like it, trust me. And if you REALLY feel you've made the wrong choice it won't be that hard to change, there are squillions out there.
Difference is you'll have a 911 while you are deliberating.
I recently went out for a drive around and found myself behind a 997S (me in a 996tt).
He just happened to be going the same way as me and although not the most scientific comparison, I can report that both cars went quite quickly and I don't know about the chap in the S but I was quite happy with my car at that moment.
Drive both, buy one, enjoy it!
He just happened to be going the same way as me and although not the most scientific comparison, I can report that both cars went quite quickly and I don't know about the chap in the S but I was quite happy with my car at that moment.
Drive both, buy one, enjoy it!
Tip is ghastly thing, tried quite a few and it was slightly better in the 6TT but not much. Yet to try a pdk but suspect I would get on with it far more.
So there you go, no point asking tip questions here, only impartial advice I can give is do not buy a tip until you driven it manual on an extended drive.
997 interior vastly better and it looks newer, TT has that fantastic boot in the back, tuneability and that turbo badge on the back. Which matters more to you?
So there you go, no point asking tip questions here, only impartial advice I can give is do not buy a tip until you driven it manual on an extended drive.
997 interior vastly better and it looks newer, TT has that fantastic boot in the back, tuneability and that turbo badge on the back. Which matters more to you?
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