These 991 opening nights, just a thought.
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I was at the Newcastle one on Thursday night for half an hour and it occurred to me that out of say 250 people there.
That 50 % of them were partners or spouses.
That leaves say 125 ish.
How many have just come for a bit of a neb at the new model ?
How many have come for a free drink / social type aspect ?
How many eventually sort out test drives ?
And finally how many actual sales will come from it ?
I wonder if someone from the trade could satisfy my curiosity ?
That 50 % of them were partners or spouses.
That leaves say 125 ish.
How many have just come for a bit of a neb at the new model ?
How many have come for a free drink / social type aspect ?
How many eventually sort out test drives ?
And finally how many actual sales will come from it ?
I wonder if someone from the trade could satisfy my curiosity ?
and a nosey at the latest we all want to see. What's not to love?majordad said:
It's a long term investment by Porsche. The car you buy today or tomorrow may not be a 991, but it could be someday. I've driven the car both on the road and on a race track, and it's stunning. Only IMHO of course, and some day I might just be a buyer. It's a very good car, period.
Exactly. It is all about keeping the love going in a Porsche direction. I just went for an early look at the new car. Not really for the food or drink and certainly not to socialise with the people there. Also hate dealing with the dealership as a whole.Had a drink, looked at car, no staff could even be arsed saying hi (far more wealthy there to arse-lick), left.
It was a low turn out, but then there wasn't much extra that you'd not get just turning up the next day in the showroom.
DS240 said:
Exactly. It is all about keeping the love going in a Porsche direction.
I can think of a few better things for Porsche to invest in to keep the love going:- fit water pumps that last more than 60K miles
- engineer a way to protect the front rads to extend their current 4 year average life expectancy
- fit door membranes that don't leak within 2 years
- stop putting the immobiliser ECU at the lowest point of the car (see related door membrane issue)
- fit radiator fans that will survive more than 50K miles
- use control arms / drop links / top mounts that can survive a couple of years
- etc...
Edited by nickfrog on Saturday 17th December 00:44
nickfrog said:
I can think of a few better things for Porsche to invest in to keep the love going:
- fit water pumps that last more than 60K miles
- engineer a way to protect the front rads to extend their current 4 year average life expectancy
- fit door membranes that don't leak within 2 years
- stop putting the immobiliser ECU at the lowest point of the car (see related door membrane issue)
- fit radiator fans that will survive more than 50K miles
- use control arms / drop links / top mounts that can survive a couple of years
- etc...
What you mean is build better not different. And I agree. - fit water pumps that last more than 60K miles
- engineer a way to protect the front rads to extend their current 4 year average life expectancy
- fit door membranes that don't leak within 2 years
- stop putting the immobiliser ECU at the lowest point of the car (see related door membrane issue)
- fit radiator fans that will survive more than 50K miles
- use control arms / drop links / top mounts that can survive a couple of years
- etc...
Edited by nickfrog on Saturday 17th December 00:44
These people who pay a deposit " on the night " are the type who wish to be seen to do so. " Look at me I have enough money to do this and take a shafting with depreciation in a year or two"
Paying a deposit in a public arena is in my opinion not good taste ( but might impress some people)
Paying a deposit in a public arena is in my opinion not good taste ( but might impress some people)
Well excuse me, I went away into a quiet side office to discuss some delivery times etc, didn't see anyone signing in public and nor did I say that! Was merely answering the OP's question about how much business they do on these nights vs cost etc with personal experience.
Edited by exigepete on Saturday 17th December 09:44
Dont forget the spread of 'excitement' it causes. This thread! People tell friends, talk on forums, it gets published in various formats, etc etc.
It is just one part of the whole strategic plan to create that elusive 'want' in people. Its not like selling toilet rolls or photocopiers.
A 911 is virtually pointless. Its a luxury, a toy, a lifestyle, a status symbol. If you cant create excitment towards it, failure is inevitable.
How many small sports manufacturers struggle with this?
MTR
It is just one part of the whole strategic plan to create that elusive 'want' in people. Its not like selling toilet rolls or photocopiers.
A 911 is virtually pointless. Its a luxury, a toy, a lifestyle, a status symbol. If you cant create excitment towards it, failure is inevitable.
How many small sports manufacturers struggle with this?
MTR
nickfrog said:
I can think of a few better things for Porsche to invest in to keep the love going:
- fit water pumps that last more than 60K miles
- engineer a way to protect the front rads to extend their current 4 year average life expectancy
- fit door membranes that don't leak within 2 years
- stop putting the immobiliser ECU at the lowest point of the car (see related door membrane issue)
- fit radiator fans that will survive more than 50K miles
- use control arms / drop links / top mounts that can survive a couple of years
- etc...
the 991 is a much better build so every one says.
- fit water pumps that last more than 60K miles
- engineer a way to protect the front rads to extend their current 4 year average life expectancy
- fit door membranes that don't leak within 2 years
- stop putting the immobiliser ECU at the lowest point of the car (see related door membrane issue)
- fit radiator fans that will survive more than 50K miles
- use control arms / drop links / top mounts that can survive a couple of years
- etc...
the 991 is a much better build so every one says.
Edited by nickfrog on Saturday 17th December 00:44
mrdemon said:
nickfrog said:
I can think of a few better things for Porsche to invest in to keep the love going:
- fit water pumps that last more than 60K miles
- engineer a way to protect the front rads to extend their current 4 year average life expectancy
- fit door membranes that don't leak within 2 years
- stop putting the immobiliser ECU at the lowest point of the car (see related door membrane issue)
- fit radiator fans that will survive more than 50K miles
- use control arms / drop links / top mounts that can survive a couple of years
- etc...
the 991 is a much better build so every one says.- fit water pumps that last more than 60K miles
- engineer a way to protect the front rads to extend their current 4 year average life expectancy
- fit door membranes that don't leak within 2 years
- stop putting the immobiliser ECU at the lowest point of the car (see related door membrane issue)
- fit radiator fans that will survive more than 50K miles
- use control arms / drop links / top mounts that can survive a couple of years
- etc...
Edited by nickfrog on Saturday 17th December 00:44
MTR
Buster73 said:
I was at the Newcastle one on Thursday night for half an hour and it occurred to me that out of say 250 people there.
That 50 % of them were partners or spouses.
That leaves say 125 ish.
How many have just come for a bit of a neb at the new model ?
How many have come for a free drink / social type aspect ?
How many eventually sort out test drives ?
And finally how many actual sales will come from it ?
I wonder if someone from the trade could satisfy my curiosity ?
YAWN ......... another ...... Pointless "how dare they advertise their Porsche like that, without conulting us first - even though i have no interest in buying it" TYPE thread ........ you dont own the OPC network, so why do you/we care?That 50 % of them were partners or spouses.
That leaves say 125 ish.
How many have just come for a bit of a neb at the new model ?
How many have come for a free drink / social type aspect ?
How many eventually sort out test drives ?
And finally how many actual sales will come from it ?
I wonder if someone from the trade could satisfy my curiosity ?
Hi, I won't divulge in the numbers but it was a fantastic success and we are already quoting April/may delivery. Sorry DS240 if we did not get to speak with you, lots of customers to catch up with new and old familiar faces, we were exhausted but still left with the feeling there was not enough time to talk to all. Please feel free to prod us in the back next time and introduce yourself, thanks for coming and joining in.
I thoroughly enjoyed the Leeds day ad I hope they did sell loads ...
There is a lot to like about the 991 .... though I feel that the look of this model is more colour specific than any other I have seen.
I adore the use of sharp edges with curves, and fort hat reason I think the silver and midnight blue metallic look great.
I was strangely underwhelmed by the red ...
There is a lot to like about the 991 .... though I feel that the look of this model is more colour specific than any other I have seen.
I adore the use of sharp edges with curves, and fort hat reason I think the silver and midnight blue metallic look great.
I was strangely underwhelmed by the red ...
pistonheed said:
Hi, I won't divulge in the numbers but it was a fantastic success and we are already quoting April/may delivery. Sorry DS240 if we did not get to speak with you, lots of customers to catch up with new and old familiar faces, we were exhausted but still left with the feeling there was not enough time to talk to all. Please feel free to prod us in the back next time and introduce yourself, thanks for coming and joining in.
Seriously - new gen 911 and only a 4 month wait list of which 3 months is probably factory build lead time? I had to wait 18 months for a Boxster back in '98 and had a friend who had to wait a similar time for a 996 Cabrio - guessing this is the new volume Porsche...Thinking about it, I've waited longer for a VW Golf.
kent_phil said:
Seriously - new gen 911 and only a 4 month wait list of which 3 months is probably factory build lead time? I had to wait 18 months for a Boxster back in '98 and had a friend who had to wait a similar time for a 996 Cabrio - guessing this is the new volume Porsche...
Thinking about it, I've waited longer for a VW Golf.
Its not an encouraging sign is it. If buyers arent fighting over it now, the future doesnt look bright.Thinking about it, I've waited longer for a VW Golf.
With the way the world is going, Porsche may need to rethink that new Assembly plant!
MTR
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