Older Porsche Reliability

[wtdoom]

I knew they weren't made of cheese .
RMS ? Pah !

http://www.worldcarfans.com/111120838870/porsche-9...

[g7jhp]

Plus the survey only looms at 7,9 or 11 year old 911 so 996!

Imagine how far ahead Porsche would be if they went back to the 993

[Dave 321]

You don't notice the RMS leaking on older porsches because the oil is pissing out everywhere

[Globs]

Dave 321 said:

You don't notice the RMS leaking on older porsches because the oil is pissing out everywhere

Or because these days the engine rebuilds are much closer together

[mollytherocker]

The TUV is just a German MOT is'nt it? Hardly a measure of engine reliability!

MTR

[madala]

...No I think they are more than that....bit like one of our motoring organistations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%9CV_Rheinland

Edited by madala on Sunday 18th December 17:14

[mollytherocker]

madala said:

...No think they are more than that....bit like one of our motoring organistations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%9CV_Rheinland

They carry out the annual MOTs in Germany and the artical refers to 8 million 'inspections' over 1 year and mentions the issuing of certificates.

Looks like the an MOT to me!

MTR

[madala]

....yes indeed they do.....but correct me if I am wrong but they seem to do a lot more apart from that.....hence the link.....

....but whatever.....

[Globs]

madala said:

....yes indeed they do.....but correct me if I am wrong but they seem to do a lot more apart from that.....hence the link.....

....but whatever.....

They will not record as a fail a new engine will they?
Nor will they spot an impending D chunk, IMS failure, big end failure or anything else apart from the newer scored bore issue.

I'm sure it's a lovely test but rather irrelevant I suspect.

[STiG911]

Globs said:

They will not record as a fail a new engine will they?
Nor will they spot an impending D chunk, IMS failure, big end failure or anything else apart from the newer scored bore issue.

I'm sure it's a lovely test but rather irrelevant I suspect.

Just like an MOT in this country it's a road worthiness and safety test not an OPC / Indy pre-purchase inspection, so there's no point pointing out the faults they'll miss which aren't a part of the test sheet.

[wtdoom]

Globs said:

madala said:

....yes indeed they do.....but correct me if I am wrong but they seem to do a lot more apart from that.....hence the link.....

....but whatever.....

They will not record as a fail a new engine will they?
Nor will they spot an impending D chunk, IMS failure, big end failure or anything else apart from the newer scored bore issue.

I'm sure it's a lovely test but rather irrelevant I suspect.

For clarities sake I think it fair to point out that the article was not referring to pass rate alone more the vehicles being the most " TROUBLE - FREE "of any vehicle in its age group . " It was also noted that " Regardless of being seven, nine or eleven years old the 911 registered in general technical inspections the FEWEST DEFECTS AMONG ALL VEHICLES . "
Not simply a case of pass and fail in this instance .

Edited by wtdoom on Monday 19th December 17:43

[bqf]

Did no-one see the Top Gear episode where there did a TUV inspection of the 3x old german bangers they had bought?

Waaaaay more depth than an MOT - they almost took the car to bits - took hours.

[A9XXC]

Our MOT is a quick glance over compared with a TUV inspection!

[mollytherocker]

A9XXC said:

Our MOT is a quick glance over compared with a TUV inspection!

Yes indeed, but the point is that it is not a measure of reliability. How do they know its not had 2 replacement engines and a ton of other warranty work done?

Its an inspection of the condition of the car on that day only.

MTR

[VonSenger]

Ive been thinking about a 996 or early 997 to turn in to a track car, the amount of cars on ebay which either have a failed engine, no engine or had a replacement engine has genuinely shocked me. As a huge porsche fan im disapointed and am looking at other cars. excluding the turbo/gt etc.

I used to think it was a myth, im now convinced the engine is made from chocolate.

Edited by VonSenger on Tuesday 20th December 06:50

[A9XXC]

"Yes indeed, but the point is that it is not a measure of reliability. How do they know its not had 2 replacement engines and a ton of other warranty work done?"

I understand your point , but we are looking at cars a minimum of 7 years old, ie well outside any warranty period.

[Shoestringracer]

Owners of ageing Porsches are more likely to service / repair their cars than, say, the owners of a similar aged Ford so it stands to reason that a 10 year old Porsche would have less faults than a ten year old Focus. What we can't tell is if the Porsche developed developed fewer faults or lots of faults that the owner thought were worth having fixed.

[Globs]

Shoestringracer said:

Owners of ageing Porsches are more likely to service / repair their cars than, say, the owners of a similar aged Ford so it stands to reason that a 10 year old Porsche would have less faults than a ten year old Focus. What we can't tell is if the Porsche developed developed fewer faults or lots of faults that the owner thought were worth having fixed.

In fact they owners will all be in the Porsche warranty scheme so all the tyres and brakes will be gleaming brand new each year.

[A9XXC]

Globs said:

In fact they owners will all be in the Porsche warranty scheme so all the tyres and brakes will be gleaming brand new each year.

10 year old Porsche in a warranty scheme!!!! Very unlikely......