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Want to buy something interesting which won't/shouldn't lose much money and staerted looking at 993 Turbo's which I almost bought, but not quite, when they were current. Expected prices to be consistant but they seem all over the place for similarly described cars....£32k up to about £55k. More if you go to Malton!
I'm a bit behind the times on these. Any tips/advice on where a decent car might be found and what's a fair price these days?
I'm a bit behind the times on these. Any tips/advice on where a decent car might be found and what's a fair price these days?
As above.. Especially if you're looking for an investment aswell, buyers at the higher end will expect everything to have been sorted, most owners tend to keep them in good order, but stiil,
buy with extreme caution and plenty of proper professional help to ensure you dont fall foul!
buy with extreme caution and plenty of proper professional help to ensure you dont fall foul!
Sadly a low miles example can need a rebuild too. Its more about what sort of usage theyve had as opposed to out and out miles. Lots of short trips = bad.
Get it properly checked over. The bills can get very large quite quickly. Try an get an enthusiast owned car as well thats ha the usual gremlins taken care of (wishbone bushes, suspension, decent silencers, rusting windscreen surrounds etc.)
Get it properly checked over. The bills can get very large quite quickly. Try an get an enthusiast owned car as well thats ha the usual gremlins taken care of (wishbone bushes, suspension, decent silencers, rusting windscreen surrounds etc.)
I've been keeping an eye on prices + advertised cars too and nothing much seems to have sold. Seems to be the same cars up for sale. I called a couple of the dealers (interestingly quite a few on p/heads advertised by non-Porsche specialist dealers)... One was plain rude + unhelpful. The other refused to allow an independent inspection an insisted I should be happy with an RAC warranty. Wasn't too impressed.
Personally I'd rather buy from a private seller (or at least be able to speak with previous owner) as this would give me a bit of a feel for the car's history.
Personally I'd rather buy from a private seller (or at least be able to speak with previous owner) as this would give me a bit of a feel for the car's history.
Edited by Kananga on Thursday 29th December 21:42
johnycarrera said:
They're getting old now, I've spent 30K in last two years on mine and there's still a list of things needing done to get it perfect. I'd be looking for plenty of receipts for work carried out to keep it in top shape 
Wow, that's a decent wedge... Did that include engine rebuild/retrim ? Do you think that Turbos cost a lot more to run than NA 993s (thinking specifically vs the C4S) ?Finacially I wish I'd bought a 993 turbo! Especially looking at the 996 values now (-what a joke at the moment!)
£55k was about my budget limit but after 4 months of serious looking nothing came up I liked. I looked at one 996 because it happened to be the perfect spec and having worked around people who maintain them I knew it to be technically bullet proof in comparison.
As a car I have never regretted my decision. I think most road tests at its release missed how much you warm to the 996 after more time at the wheel. Its limits are so vast that only the most confident of drivers experienced the beauty of its handling at the limits.
If you can still find a nice one before too many fall below their natural value and into the hands of the wrong kind of people. I cannot see the value dropping now and value for money the 996 turbo must now be amongst the rarest buys in automotive history. Let alone the current Porsche market!
You can spend low £20's on an 2nd hand VW! Porsche's flagship turbo changing hands at this money is bonkers. Truely bonkers.
£55k was about my budget limit but after 4 months of serious looking nothing came up I liked. I looked at one 996 because it happened to be the perfect spec and having worked around people who maintain them I knew it to be technically bullet proof in comparison.
As a car I have never regretted my decision. I think most road tests at its release missed how much you warm to the 996 after more time at the wheel. Its limits are so vast that only the most confident of drivers experienced the beauty of its handling at the limits.
If you can still find a nice one before too many fall below their natural value and into the hands of the wrong kind of people. I cannot see the value dropping now and value for money the 996 turbo must now be amongst the rarest buys in automotive history. Let alone the current Porsche market!
You can spend low £20's on an 2nd hand VW! Porsche's flagship turbo changing hands at this money is bonkers. Truely bonkers.
Kananga said:
Wow, that's a decent wedge... Did that include engine rebuild/retrim ? Do you think that Turbos cost a lot more to run than NA 993s (thinking specifically vs the C4S) ?
Yeah it had a 15K engine rebuild, suspension including all arms bushes mounts etc, brakes and tons of other stuff that mounts up if you're getting someone else to do the work.Far more expensive to run than my Carrera was as parts cost a lot more. Although maybe I'd god rid Os the Carrera before it needed refreshed. They are old now and Porsches in general are expensive to run (relatively)
johnycarrera said:
Yeah it had a 15K engine rebuild, suspension including all arms bushes mounts etc, brakes and tons of other stuff that mounts up if you're getting someone else to do the work.
Far more expensive to run than my Carrera was as parts cost a lot more. Although maybe I'd god rid Os the Carrera before it needed refreshed. They are old now and Porsches in general are expensive to run (relatively)
Interesting, thx. I don't trust myself to do any significant mechanical or body work, so would be in the same position as you (ie. paying someone else to do most - if not all - work. Far more expensive to run than my Carrera was as parts cost a lot more. Although maybe I'd god rid Os the Carrera before it needed refreshed. They are old now and Porsches in general are expensive to run (relatively)
Think maybe I will just stick with my 4S...
Niffty951 said:
You can spend low £20's on an 2nd hand VW! Porsche's flagship turbo changing hands at this money is bonkers. Truely bonkers.
That was what I was thinking when I bought Richard Hamilton's 996TT back in October.Every mile in it since has been a pleasure including a run from Oxford to Holyhead to catch a ferry to Ireland where the trip computer said I got over 30mpg ( how accurate are these ? )
PiB said:
johnycarrera said:
Yeah it had a 15K engine rebuild,
Really? Engine rebuilds are recommended every 15k miles? What all do they 'rebuild' on the engine?My cruise control doesn't work. Is that easy to fix? What kind of mpg's are people getting from their 993tt's?
Niffty951 said:
Finacially I wish I'd bought a 993 turbo! Especially looking at the 996 values now (-what a joke at the moment!)
£55k was about my budget limit but after 4 months of serious looking nothing came up I liked. I looked at one 996 because it happened to be the perfect spec and having worked around people who maintain them I knew it to be technically bullet proof in comparison.
As a car I have never regretted my decision. I think most road tests at its release missed how much you warm to the 996 after more time at the wheel. Its limits are so vast that only the most confident of drivers experienced the beauty of its handling at the limits.
If you can still find a nice one before too many fall below their natural value and into the hands of the wrong kind of people. I cannot see the value dropping now and value for money the 996 turbo must now be amongst the rarest buys in automotive history. Let alone the current Porsche market!
You can spend low £20's on an 2nd hand VW! Porsche's flagship turbo changing hands at this money is bonkers. Truely bonkers.
Spot on. Great cars£55k was about my budget limit but after 4 months of serious looking nothing came up I liked. I looked at one 996 because it happened to be the perfect spec and having worked around people who maintain them I knew it to be technically bullet proof in comparison.
As a car I have never regretted my decision. I think most road tests at its release missed how much you warm to the 996 after more time at the wheel. Its limits are so vast that only the most confident of drivers experienced the beauty of its handling at the limits.
If you can still find a nice one before too many fall below their natural value and into the hands of the wrong kind of people. I cannot see the value dropping now and value for money the 996 turbo must now be amongst the rarest buys in automotive history. Let alone the current Porsche market!
You can spend low £20's on an 2nd hand VW! Porsche's flagship turbo changing hands at this money is bonkers. Truely bonkers.
By the way the write up on your profile for the 6T is spot on too, I loved mine and as an everyday car nothing would touch it, however my Pork has always been a weekend/holiday hoon and the GT2 fits that use a little more wilder.
hickster said:
That was what I was thinking when I bought Richard Hamilton's 996TT back in October.
The trip computer said I got over 30mpg ( how accurate are these ? )
Ahh ha you are the man who bought Richard's car The trip computer said I got over 30mpg ( how accurate are these ? )
an example as well looked after as that at such sensible money. Lucky find indeed!Just oit of curiosity I've tested my mpg against the calculator twice and both times it has been spot on! About 0.2-0.4 mpg pessimistic against my calcs but thats more than within the margin for human error.
Edited by Niffty951 on Sunday 1st January 13:58
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