Better fuel?
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Stubbsy

Original Poster:

147 posts

189 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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Can't remember where it was but saw a comment along the lines of when you use better fuel the ecu recognises this and adjusts and ultimately increases performance..
Does using better fuel I.e shell v power really make any noticeable difference over supermarket unleaded?!

gsewell

724 posts

314 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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I have not noticed any change in performance, but have noticed a small improvement in fuel consumption. Probably about the same proportion is the change in price.

However, it depends on your driving style.

cay

380 posts

187 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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IIRC it retards the ignition so the fuel is compressed more before the spark, this gives a better bang and more power.

There have been some independent tests where they tried super VS normal on various cars and generally got a gain in power and economy. The gains were more apparent on higher performance cars.

Porsche says their engines are tuned to run best on 98 so lower octane ratings can reduce power.

Whether anyone can actually feel the difference on the road is a different matter!

Kit2Kar

23 posts

187 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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I have found that an engine runs alot smoother on fuel from BP/Shell etc, I personaly will not use supermarket fuel in any of my cars.

Maersk

1,091 posts

182 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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I'll second the above.

Ian58

132 posts

190 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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I only ever use shell v power ,so can't comment on supermarket fuel ,so I'll stick with what I know and it's the cars only tipple and boy does she like to drink it

Maersk

1,091 posts

182 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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Weird, why did I get the advert?

petop

2,408 posts

197 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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Better fuel, ie VPower etc did make a difference in my old Impreza when i had it. Most Subaru owners will back this up. But as has been said, it tends to be in performance cars that the difference is noticed. I doubt Gran in her 2001 Fiesta will gain anything apart from a lighter purse!

Magic919

14,579 posts

232 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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We only recently covered this. Basically the car will pull ignition timing if it detects knock. Higher rated fuel should mean this doesn't happen.

rog007

5,832 posts

255 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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Maersk said:
Weird, why did I get the advert?
It recognises dull posts and tries to brighten them up with an ad...








hehe

sportsandclassic

3,774 posts

249 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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Kit2Kar said:
I have found that an engine runs alot smoother on fuel from BP/Shell etc, I personaly will not use supermarket fuel in any of my cars.
Now i thought all fuel came from the same refinery....? Sure the v power may have an additive in it but normal fuel surely is the same ?

Mike

Diesel130

1,549 posts

243 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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sportsandclassic said:
Now i thought all fuel came from the same refinery....?

Mike
I understand that is the case for all standard fuel, but Shell V-Power comes from one shell refinery only (somewhere up in your neck of the woods like Runcorn I think)...


smj996c

319 posts

224 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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I never understand these threads re fuel types, everytime you go to fill up a sticker inside the filler cap says 98 RON minimum? This means your Porsche runs optimally on fuel at or above this.

Stanlow is the refinery that produces v- power iirc



nsm3

2,831 posts

227 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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I can only easily get 97 RON round my way - eek! Is my car now shagged ;-)

As I understand it, all the petrol types have the same calorific value, so the same energy contained within them - the RON rating only relates to their ability to resist early ignition or knocking. By retarding the ignition for lower RON fuel, the engine doesn't get the most effective combustion point to engine position possible, hence the lower power/fuel economy?

I am not convinced by the high end fuels and get no better performance from Shell V whatever over Total 97 TBH?

I'm sure someone much clevererer than me will be along to blow this out of the water soon?

Durzel

13,003 posts

199 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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No Tesco 99 users? Is it just a snobbery thing?

Magic919

14,579 posts

232 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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I use it.

SFO

5,191 posts

214 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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Durzel said:
No Tesco 99 users? Is it just a snobbery thing?
I use it. Works well.

Angelus

2,209 posts

195 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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I use it too. Ordinary petrol doesn't let me make as much boost. V-Power or 99 ron gives me more.

thegoose

8,077 posts

241 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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On a previous thread someone said that a petrol car will back things off for low grade fuel straightaway (makes sense, you'd want it to) but will take longer to slowly turn the wick back up when decent stuff is used regularly. This of course means it's hard to tell the difference in performance (/economy) as the change may be gradual, unless you fill an empty tank with V power and have a garage reset the car's adaptions to factory base settings (i.e. expecting 98RON).

A friend runs his Smart car on V Power and says he can notice the difference and also gets 30-40 miles more per tank.

I did see 5th Gear do a rolling road test to compare diesel fuels and the differences were immediate and significant, never seen one done for petrol though.

Angelus

2,209 posts

195 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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I did notice it was gradual on the way back up, but I put it down to the fact that there was a mixture of ordinary and V-Power in the tank? I don't know if I could tell you there was a difference if I didn't have the boost gauge to tell me?