05 Boxster 2.7
Discussion
Good evening, folks.
I think the time is right to get my first Porsche! I need to replace my 09 Volvo C30 1.8F with an everyday car.
Of course, I'm fully aware that I'm replacing an apple with an orange. And I have done my homeworks regarding insurance, running costs, unforeseen repairs, the lot.
I set my eye on a 08.2005 Boxster 2.7 with 50'000 miles (75'000 km, as I'm in Switzerland).
It's a pretty basic spec with only sport steering wheel; auto air con; metallic; park distance control; soundsystem; cruise control, heated front seats. It even has only the 17" rims.
For me, those are all the options I need. I always liked the idea of a basic, cheap(ish) Porsche.
The car is sold by a Porsche main dealer and comes with a one year Porsche worldwide, unlimited millage and the 111 point Porsche check done.
The car would have to sleep on the road and i would be looking at getting the hardtop (is it worth getting) and winter tyres for the cold season.
I would commute 4 miles each way. Is that enough to warm up the 8l of oil? In total it would be driven 8'000 miles p.a.
What are your opinions? In my eyes it would make a perfect first Porsche!
I think the time is right to get my first Porsche! I need to replace my 09 Volvo C30 1.8F with an everyday car.
Of course, I'm fully aware that I'm replacing an apple with an orange. And I have done my homeworks regarding insurance, running costs, unforeseen repairs, the lot.
I set my eye on a 08.2005 Boxster 2.7 with 50'000 miles (75'000 km, as I'm in Switzerland).
It's a pretty basic spec with only sport steering wheel; auto air con; metallic; park distance control; soundsystem; cruise control, heated front seats. It even has only the 17" rims.
For me, those are all the options I need. I always liked the idea of a basic, cheap(ish) Porsche.
The car is sold by a Porsche main dealer and comes with a one year Porsche worldwide, unlimited millage and the 111 point Porsche check done.
The car would have to sleep on the road and i would be looking at getting the hardtop (is it worth getting) and winter tyres for the cold season.
I would commute 4 miles each way. Is that enough to warm up the 8l of oil? In total it would be driven 8'000 miles p.a.
What are your opinions? In my eyes it would make a perfect first Porsche!
Perfect 1st Porsche IMHO, sounds great. I did think winter tyres were a legal requirement in swiss? if not you would deffo need them, I hear Gstad had some deep snow last week, what part of swiss are you in, I spend a lot of time out there for work, lovely place very expensive though!
Valentin said:
I would commute 4 miles each way. Is that enough to warm up the 8l of oil? In total it would be driven 8'000 miles p.a.
4 miles is not enough to fully warm the engine but 8 miles a day is only 2000 miles a year so I assume you will be doing 6000 miles on longer trips? If so, all will be fine.MTR
BertBert said:
Hard tops for convertibles should be illegal! In my last convertible, I made it a point to only have the top up if it was actually raining.
Bert
In my first convertible at 18 (Triumph Vitesse) I only ever had the roof up if it was raining hard.Bert
I'm not quite so hardcore now though, but wouldn't ever want a hardtop on a decent modern convertible of any kind - the small decrease in road noise isn't worth not being able to take advantage of bright sunny winter days.
Well good afternoon,
I will be having a look at said car on Friday. Really looking foreward to!!
Now I have already read severall buyer guides (GT Purely Porsche's and Hartech) but is there anything else I should know of?
I have never bought a car of that age (only classic stuff or brand new). What wear an tear should I except from an early 987 (2005) with 50'000 miles on the clock? For instance:
- how long does the clutch last (I know, depends on how it has been treated but roughly..?)
- when do the bushes need replacing?
- when is "THE big service" due?
I mean, it is a Porsche approved vehicle which had the 111 points check done and benefits from the 1 year unlimited miles Porsche Guarantee. What could possibly go wrong??
cheers
Valentin
ETA:
this is the link to the advertisement
http://www.porsche-zentrum.com/pch-maienfeld/de/sa...
I will be having a look at said car on Friday. Really looking foreward to!!
Now I have already read severall buyer guides (GT Purely Porsche's and Hartech) but is there anything else I should know of?
I have never bought a car of that age (only classic stuff or brand new). What wear an tear should I except from an early 987 (2005) with 50'000 miles on the clock? For instance:
- how long does the clutch last (I know, depends on how it has been treated but roughly..?)
- when do the bushes need replacing?
- when is "THE big service" due?
I mean, it is a Porsche approved vehicle which had the 111 points check done and benefits from the 1 year unlimited miles Porsche Guarantee. What could possibly go wrong??
cheers
Valentin
ETA:
this is the link to the advertisement
http://www.porsche-zentrum.com/pch-maienfeld/de/sa...
Is it the grey one at Maienfeld listed with 70,800kms? Looks nice but that front brake disc look a bit worn in that picture. Perhaps they could sort that out for you?
Hardtops are a very rare sight on 987s and I would agree with the above who say they are a waste of time. They are expensive, heavy and can be a source of sqeaks and as soon as you get a bit of winter sun there is nothing that beats getting the top down. The final nail in the coffin for most is that it's a risky one person job to fit/remove and then you need to have/find somewhere safe to store it in the summer.
P.S. I believe that Porsche used to supply 996 Cab's with a hardtop as standard but they stopped doing this on the 997.
Hardtops are a very rare sight on 987s and I would agree with the above who say they are a waste of time. They are expensive, heavy and can be a source of sqeaks and as soon as you get a bit of winter sun there is nothing that beats getting the top down. The final nail in the coffin for most is that it's a risky one person job to fit/remove and then you need to have/find somewhere safe to store it in the summer.
P.S. I believe that Porsche used to supply 996 Cab's with a hardtop as standard but they stopped doing this on the 997.
It is indeed the grey one at Maienfeld (70'800 km / CHF 29'800.-) (sorry, can't link it more directly as it's flash based)
Thanks for pointing out the heavy wear on the brakes mogul! Will have a closer look at that. BTW do you know of a good Porsche specialist in Switzerland (even in Geneva area, as I would'nt mind driving there from time to time)?
Plan would be to go to the PC as long as under warranty and to a good specialist afterwards.
Thanks for pointing out the heavy wear on the brakes mogul! Will have a closer look at that. BTW do you know of a good Porsche specialist in Switzerland (even in Geneva area, as I would'nt mind driving there from time to time)?
Plan would be to go to the PC as long as under warranty and to a good specialist afterwards.
Fantastic choice of car. I am sure you'll love it.
I have had 2 987's; the most recent being an 05 2.7 with the 17's. I sold it about 6 months ago and this week I have been
on the verge of emailing the chap who bought it to ask if he will give me 1st refusal if/when he fancies a change. Such a
great wee car to drive, whether cruising around town or going for it on the back roads.
I have had 2 987's; the most recent being an 05 2.7 with the 17's. I sold it about 6 months ago and this week I have been
on the verge of emailing the chap who bought it to ask if he will give me 1st refusal if/when he fancies a change. Such a
great wee car to drive, whether cruising around town or going for it on the back roads.
Valentin said:
Good evening, folks.
I think the time is right to get my first Porsche! I need to replace my 09 Volvo C30 1.8F with an everyday car.
Of course, I'm fully aware that I'm replacing an apple with an orange. And I have done my homeworks regarding insurance, running costs, unforeseen repairs, the lot.
I set my eye on a 08.2005 Boxster 2.7 with 50'000 miles (75'000 km, as I'm in Switzerland).
It's a pretty basic spec with only sport steering wheel; auto air con; metallic; park distance control; soundsystem; cruise control, heated front seats. It even has only the 17" rims.
For me, those are all the options I need. I always liked the idea of a basic, cheap(ish) Porsche.
The car is sold by a Porsche main dealer and comes with a one year Porsche worldwide, unlimited millage and the 111 point Porsche check done.
The car would have to sleep on the road and i would be looking at getting the hardtop (is it worth getting) and winter tyres for the cold season.
I would commute 4 miles each way. Is that enough to warm up the 8l of oil? In total it would be driven 8'000 miles p.a.
What are your opinions? In my eyes it would make a perfect first Porsche!
Four miles is not enough drive time, engine run time to warm up the engine and its oil. When I lived in the mid-west (USA) and drove my 02 2.7l Boxster in the winter real time monitoring of the coolant temp found that even my 10+ mile drive from home to office was not enough to warm up the engine.I think the time is right to get my first Porsche! I need to replace my 09 Volvo C30 1.8F with an everyday car.
Of course, I'm fully aware that I'm replacing an apple with an orange. And I have done my homeworks regarding insurance, running costs, unforeseen repairs, the lot.
I set my eye on a 08.2005 Boxster 2.7 with 50'000 miles (75'000 km, as I'm in Switzerland).
It's a pretty basic spec with only sport steering wheel; auto air con; metallic; park distance control; soundsystem; cruise control, heated front seats. It even has only the 17" rims.
For me, those are all the options I need. I always liked the idea of a basic, cheap(ish) Porsche.
The car is sold by a Porsche main dealer and comes with a one year Porsche worldwide, unlimited millage and the 111 point Porsche check done.
The car would have to sleep on the road and i would be looking at getting the hardtop (is it worth getting) and winter tyres for the cold season.
I would commute 4 miles each way. Is that enough to warm up the 8l of oil? In total it would be driven 8'000 miles p.a.
What are your opinions? In my eyes it would make a perfect first Porsche!
In cold weather, even longer drives would see the coolant temp struggling to climb much above 190F.
What I consider warm is when the engine gets hot enough the radiator fans turn on. For my 02 this occurs when the coolant reaches 212F. (Note: I if you turn on the A/C if the outside temp is not too low (above 34F IIRC) the radiator fans are switched on automatically.)
When the fans come on due to elevated coolant temp, what this means is that the coolant is at 212F and the oil's about as hot as it will get and hopefully the oil is hot enough to boil the water vapor and unburned fuel out of the oil.
In your case unless you can take the car out every so often and drive it long enough and in the right conditions so the fans come on the engine will not run as hot as it probably should. Water and unburned fuel buildup in the oil will be the result. This means the oil gets thinner and the combustion byproducts combine with the water (mainly) to form acids which is not a good thing. While the oil has an additive package to help fight the build up of acids in the oil this additive package can be consumed prior to a scheduled oil/filter service.
I would thus recommend you consider at least a yearly oil/filter service and you might do 2 a year.
My 02's 2.7l engine has received 5K mile oil/filter services since new and the engine is now fast approaching the 250K mile mark and runs as good as ever.
As an aside I was in Switzerland on business a couple of years ago. I loved the country and the people were fantastic. I got to drive a Renault (rental car) but would have killed to have my Boxster there and the chance to drive it around.
Sincerely,
Rockster.
It's always interesting to hear reports about the ever increasing milage on your car Rockster but at local prices, the cost of changing the oil as frequently as you have done (even ignoring the cost of your own labour!) would go a long way towards the price of a rebuilt/replacement motor.
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