Track day insurance for 997tt

[mm450exc]

What company do you guys use?

[spyderman8]

Depends if you're interested in one-off or as part of your road coverage. For the latter, I recommend Manning.

[mm450exc]

Looking for one-off.

[J-P]

mm450exc said:

Looking for one-off.

I wouldn't bother unless you found somewhere unbelievably cheap.

My last trackday insurance quote was £350 (for one day) with 10% of the value of the car as an excess.

I thought it was unlikely that I'd do that much damage, so decided against it.

Steer clear of idiots, ignore people who want to race and leave a little something in reserve and you'll be fine!

[HoHoHo]

J-P said:

mm450exc said:

Looking for one-off.

I wouldn't bother unless you found somewhere unbelievably cheap.

My last trackday insurance quote was £350 (for one day) with 10% of the value of the car as an excess.

I thought it was unlikely that I'd do that much damage, so decided against it.

Steer clear of idiots, ignore people who want to race and leave a little something in reserve and you'll be fine!

And when you're feeling confident - back off a bit

[J-P]

I've only ever seen one accident where I hoped the guy had TD insurance and to be honest it was never clear to me if the accident was avoidable - the instructor implied that it was, the driver reported mechanical failure - whatever the case the end result would have been a right PITA and would have required suspension work and rebuild to fibreglass body - not nice! Even then I'm not sure that the damage would have been enough to trigger a payment from the insurer but it might have been?

On my first track day I had a "moment" but I was wise enough to leave the TC on, so it wasn't a problem! On the same day a moron in a turbo s was tank slapping all over the place to get past me, so I let him through and avoided him for the rest of the day. After that I decided, never drive at 10/10ths, get more instruction, steer well clear of anybody who wants to race or looks like they don't know what they're doing and so far these basic rules seem to have worked.

Edited by J-P on Wednesday 25th January 06:47

[williaa68]

I get five days with competition car insurance. Their policy was only about £50 more than my old policy so excellent value. Depending on when your renewal is up might be cheaper to renew early with them rather than a stand alone policy. Andrew

[mm450exc]

Thanks for the feedback guys!

So if you not pushing the limits do you turn PSM off? With PSM off do you spin the car quickly?

[scarebus]

No, these cars are pretty planted with PSM off.

[J-P]

mm450exc said:

Thanks for the feedback guys!

So if you not pushing the limits do you turn PSM off? With PSM off do you spin the car quickly?

911s are pretty benign at the limit, you get a fair degree of warning. If its a quiet day with plenty of run-off, then there's not going to be an issue with turning off the TC, if it's busy or tight, I'd leave it on. No point in regretting it later. The little orange light will tell you when it's helping out anyway, so if it's never coming on then you don't need it anyway! If it's coming on in specific corners, then at least you know when you need to be careful if you do turn it off!

[GrahamSaunders]

mm450exc said:

Thanks for the feedback guys!

So if you not pushing the limits do you turn PSM off? With PSM off do you spin the car quickly?

I'd recommend Manning UK - I have track day cover on my regular policy but there is a 10% car value excess, but my view is that if I scuff the car then I'll just stump up, I want the insurance in case of a major accident - I have seen some 911s go backwards into walls and it doesn't take much to do alot of damage.

There seems to be a general view on PH that if you are on a track day then "real men" turn off PSM / TC or whatever you have. In my experience the porsche systems are really well judged and only interfer when you are about to have a big one. This is based on taking both my 996C4S and 997.1GT3 on several track days. The cars have a hug amount of grip - although make sure you adjust your tyre pressures through the day - and the stability systems / tc system allows enough slip to have fun but will save your arse if you over do it. I'd recommend leaving the systems on unless you get to a point where it is stopping you enjoying the car. Other manufacturers (e.g. Audi and Lambo are example I have driven on track) have much more nannying systems that ruin the fun at even moderate speeds.

If you haven't done many track days then make sure you get your tyre pressures right. The additional speed increases the tyre pressures and temperatures and if you don't drop them you'll find you'll start to lose grip. Advice I was given which seems to work is to drop the pressures when the tyres are hot so that they end up at the recommended pressure inside the fuel flap. Take a pump with you so you can pump them back up again at the end of the day.

[spyderman8]

Additional to GrahamSaunders post, if you have Sport Chrono, switching to Sport or Sport Plus will lessen the intervention of PSM. Unless you really are an expert on over grip limit correction, I most certainly would not turn off PSM! The only car I know of where Porsche suggest you turn off a driver aid is TC on a 997.1 GT3 - apparently it can result in excessive tyre wear.

On any car, if you get your tyre pressures wrong on track, as well as affecting group you will cause excessive wear.