Space saver, collapsible wheel or puncture repair for 997?
Space saver, collapsible wheel or puncture repair for 997?
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GuitarPlayer63

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199 posts

179 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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I’m travelling in Europe in May this year and am debating whether to carry a space saver wheel or not and am looking for some advice. I’m not particularly keen to inject the gunk if I get a flat in the event it doesn’t fix the puncture and wrecks what is a decent tyre.

I’ve already got one of the repair kits I saw mentioned elsewhere on here, but i don’t yet have the jack (which I will have to get to use it).

Ive read about the normal space saver and the collapsible space saver – I have one part number 996-362-020-04, but i dont know which one this is.

I’ve found the Porsche part numbers for the correct wheel, jack and tool, but want to know whats in that toolkit since its £150 in its own right. I can imagine it will probably have a brace and a jack of some sort, but anything else? I know it will cost ££££’s less to buy the individual items since they cant be that different to what I can source anywhere – can they, or am I missing something obvious?
Thanks!

Pugley

687 posts

222 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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I have been through this loop myself:-

I purchased a collapsible wheel as the space saver does not fit in the C4 chassis used for the GT3. (easy decision) The collapsible wheel is much closer to a normal tyre size than a space saver, so my logic is that I can drive further/longer on it if I need to without drastically effecting the handling.

You must remember that you will need enough space in the rear passenger compartment to squeeze in a full size rear tyre if the worst happens. (either that or get the front passenger to hop out idea)

The gunk stuff - forget it, if you have anything more than a small hole it wont work and will ruin the tyre anyway.

The tool kit - you will need a good electric pump to inflate the space saver and the Porsche jack and brace is very lightweight. However, any of the items can be purchased cheaply elsewhere.

Edited by Pugley on Wednesday 8th February 14:16

F3RNANDO

5,186 posts

208 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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If you have a space saver is it looks like a skinny tyre with air in - the collapsible tyre is rock hard and flat - until you inflate it - you should be able to tell the difference.

Where has your jack gone? Should be in a bag under the front boot floor?

If not: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Lightweight-allo...

Edited by F3RNANDO on Wednesday 8th February 14:17

GuitarPlayer63

Original Poster:

199 posts

179 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Thanks for the feedback smile, there's no jack in the car and it looks like its never had one (I lifted the floor last night hopefully...). There's the compressor, the gunk and the tool kit.

The jack suggested looks like it will probably work, but they seem to have a raised area on the top of the jack where I guess it engages on the car body. Did Porsche change the shape of them over time, or is it more of a one size fits all (which seems unlikely as its an opportunity to sell more)? I've seen various adverts for jack pads (a round metal disk with a smaller round piece sticking up on top).

Can you tell me the part number for the Collapsible wheel? I've got a 997.2 with 19inch wheels. No issue on storing the punctured wheel if I need to, but a good reminder to not get into the situation of not being able to carry everything!
Thanks!

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Anyone got a link to a collapsible wheel? never seen one before (I've lived a sheltered life) and I may get one for my 991

nsm3

2,831 posts

226 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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This is interesting - guess the part numbers apply here in uk ?

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997/243162-diy-...

David W.

1,951 posts

239 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Pugley said:
You must remember that you will need enough space in the rear passenger compartment to squeeze in a full size rear tyre if the worst happens. (either that or get the front passenger to hop out idea)

Edited by Pugley on Wednesday 8th February 14:16
would roof bars (or blanket frown ) and a ratchet strap help here?

F3RNANDO

5,186 posts

208 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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David W. said:
Pugley said:
You must remember that you will need enough space in the rear passenger compartment to squeeze in a full size rear tyre if the worst happens. (either that or get the front passenger to hop out idea)

Edited by Pugley on Wednesday 8th February 14:16
would roof bars (or blanket frown ) and a ratchet strap help here?
Bit harsh putting your passenger on the roof! Even with a blanket biggrin

GuitarPlayer63

Original Poster:

199 posts

179 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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F3RNANDO said:
Bit harsh putting your passenger on the roof! Even with a blanket biggrin
laugh

Pugley

687 posts

222 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Just found these pictures of a collapsible wheel. The correct part number for each model can be found in the parts "katalog"

The one shown is an 18"(when inflated) for a 996C4 which also fits the Mk1 GT3




It's quite surprising how this wheel grows to full size when inflatedbounce

Edited by Pugley on Thursday 9th February 20:03

Magic919

14,569 posts

231 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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I'm pretty sure the wheel doesn't collapse.

David W.

1,951 posts

239 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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http://tinyurl.com/7e5rj9r

is the answer here

GuitarPlayer63

Original Poster:

199 posts

179 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Just as an update, I ended up buying the collapsible spare wheel new because I couldn't find a second hand one (I hadn't realised just how substantial it actually is - its very well made and looks like it will last forever). I also bought a jack second hand with the foam mount so it lives in the centre of the wheel.

To mount the wheel without it rattling round the boot, I removed the cover at the back of the boot that holds the tools, gunk, compressor and the space-saver and tied two 2m nylon luggage straps onto the bracket that protrudes behind that cover with the ends of the straps sticking out. I then put the cover with its contents back on (and) covering the bracket. I was then able to put the wheel into the boot at the back and by crossing over the luggage straps was able to hold the wheel pretty securely.

I did see a post on another site about a very enterprising owner who has managed to secure a threaded rod onto the back of the boot to mount the wheel onto, but the one thing that put me off doing that is I think that threaded rod is in front of and pointing at the fuel tank, I wasn't keen on the possibility of a front end shunt resulting in a pierced fuel tank.

As a daily driver, the last thing I need is getting a puncture and having to get a tow truck to rescue me - even worse if I'm driving somewhere in Europe.

Sandy59

2,733 posts

241 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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My advice would be to try the emergency repair kit first if you get a puncture which is not near the side wall - I presume it's the rubber bung type ?? You don't need the jack provided you can roll the car to get access to the hole, which is not easy on the rear with the room needed to operate the tool. This way you won't need to worry about the space needed for your punctured wheel.
I used this type of kit a few months ago, took about 15 minutes all in to get going again, never lost any pressure, then had it properly fixed a few days later.

wtdoom

3,742 posts

238 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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anyone got a link to these bung type wotsits please ? keep hearing about them i think a set would be a good idea .

Sandy59

2,733 posts

241 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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wtdoom said:
anyone got a link to these bung type wotsits please ? keep hearing about them i think a set would be a good idea .
This is the one I used :http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-Tyre-Repair-Kit-380421/dp/B001QUN9UQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1331574648&sr=8-6

wtdoom

3,742 posts

238 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Sandy59 said:
This is the one I used :http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-Tyre-Repair-Kit-380421/dp/B001QUN9UQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1331574648&sr=8-6
Thank you sandy59 smile