Family on the way - 911 or Cayenne?

[dasherdiablo1]

I know this has been asked by others before but the search engine is down again and I haven't got the time or patience to trawl through hundreds of pages of fourm!

Me & the mrs are expecting our first child; so the Boxster S has to go. Thing is we want to keep a Porsche in the stable; we want to be spending a maximum of £30k and it must have the OPC warranty with it. This leaves us with the option of a recent shape Cayenne (4.8 or 3.6) or a 997 (3.8 or 3.6).

I would prefer isofix in the rear seats - do 997's have this as standard? Also will a rear facing child seat fit in the back for a newborn baby?

Thanks in advance for your help.

David

[nickd01]

dasherdiablo1 said:

I would prefer isofix in the rear seats - do 997's have this as standard? Also will a rear facing child seat fit in the back for a newborn baby?

Thanks in advance for your help.

David

No ISOFIX - at least not in my 996 Turbo.

Rear facing seat will fit (Secured by seat-belt), but the passenger needs to be small. Getting the baby in and out is easier when he/she is put in the seat before putting the seat in the car. Still requires careful manoeuvring! We can get a collapsed Bugaboo Chamealon on the back seat next to him. Doesn't leave much room for anything else.

To be honest, if it's going to be your only car you'll struggle with a 911. We have an A3 Sportback as well and use that loads more as it's just so much easier / more practical. People say you can get loads in a 911, and you can. It all depends how much time you want to spend carefully packing a car. With a newborn you wont have loads of time, and for us an easier car to use ensured we all got out a lot more.

[J-P]

997s don't have isofix in the rear seats. Rear facing car seat would be a PITA in a 997 to be honest and probably compromise either the driving position or passenger position (which would make visibility out of passenger window much worse).

Once the baby is a little bigger (say 2 years old), so can climb into the car on his / her own, then 997 is much more viable option IMHO.

[Luke.]

If you've still got the X3 then wouldn't that make a Cayenne moot?

Personally I ditch the X3 and the Boxster and get a Cayenne Turbo. The 997 will get far less use as a family wagon than you'll expect.

By the way, I also sold my Boxster S when a baby came along. Went for an Outback and bloody love it. Totally off topic, but hey ho.

[mm450exc]

911 is not really a family car. If I put a child seat in the rear on the 997 turbo I have to move the passenger seat all the way forward which does not work for my wife. So I'd say you have to get both cars....

[Wanta996Gotta]

dasherdiablo1 said:

I know this has been asked by others before but the search engine is down again and I haven't got the time or patience to trawl through hundreds of pages of fourm!

Me & the mrs are expecting our first child; so the Boxster S has to go. Thing is we want to keep a Porsche in the stable; we want to be spending a maximum of £30k and it must have the OPC warranty with it. This leaves us with the option of a recent shape Cayenne (4.8 or 3.6) or a 997 (3.8 or 3.6).

I would prefer isofix in the rear seats - do 997's have this as standard? Also will a rear facing child seat fit in the back for a newborn baby?

Thanks in advance for your help.

David

Porsche may do a rear facing child seat for the 997 though i have never saw one.They all seem to be forward facing and very pricey - http://www.porscheshop.co.uk/acatalog/porsche_baby...

Very difficult getting any non-Porsche child seat to fit legally, i used a Mamas & Papas pro-tec after allot of searching. Another issue is that they sit very upright so support for childs head is not ideal especially when they fall asleep.

997 is a great car in my opinion,it can do everything and anything from long distance trip in relative comfort to a blast around your local track - flawless IMO.There is one 997 under £30k on the Porsche used car locator. You could buy a used one privately that either has a warranty you can transfer left on it or get a 111 point inspection done which would enable you to buy a years warranty. Allot of good low mileage 997S's at £28-£30k in the Pistonheads used car section.

Cayenne? Hmmm, not sure if the Diesels are in your price range yet so be prepared for crazy MPG figures.If MPG doesnt bother you then buy a used Cayenne Turbo as i dont see the standard or S model anyway superior than an X5/ML never mind a Range Rover which you could pick up for a lot less than £30k.

[Carl_Docklands]

I would buy neither and go for an M3 until the kid hits 2 1/2 and then get into a 997.

[disco1]

I've a 996, It's our only car, kids are 6 and 4. It's pretty easy as they can both get themselves in and do their own seat belts. Front boot it big enough for a suprising amount of shopping and there is also a handy area behing the rear seats. We've been camping in it and everything.


The only concern I'd have in your situation is that you may struggle with a baby due to the backward facing seat they first use. After 3 years of age your fine.

[jonny996]

With kids comes mess & I was starting to get anoyed at them messing my 996 up muddy shoes everywhere ect.

In the end opted for £10k cayenne, they can do what they like to it, lots of room.

I would go the Cayenne route if I where you, plenty time to get a 911 in years to come.

[dasherdiablo1]

I was afraid that this might be the case and your feedback has confirmed it. We still are still going to have the X3 or might swap it for an Evoque.

This means I am going to have to have a 'normal car' for the forseeable future! In which case I might as well sell the 987 and get a cruddy run around for a few grand; at least this means I've not got an expensive car to devalue whilst I hold out for something sporty in a couple of years.

[Carl_Docklands]

dasherdiablo1 said:

I was afraid that this might be the case and your feedback has confirmed it. We still are still going to have the X3 or might swap it for an Evoque.

This means I am going to have to have a 'normal car' for the forseeable future! In which case I might as well sell the 987 and get a cruddy run around for a few grand; at least this means I've not got an expensive car to devalue whilst I hold out for something sporty in a couple of years.

Just a word to the wise, when my little one arrived I kept my 987 as it allowed me to escape and have some fun on my own without going too far. No holiday for two years does strange things to a mans mind.

[Cobnapint]

dasherdiablo1 said:

I was afraid that this might be the case and your feedback has confirmed it. We still are still going to have the X3 or might swap it for an Evoque.

This means I am going to have to have a 'normal car' for the forseeable future! In which case I might as well sell the 987 and get a cruddy run around for a few grand; at least this means I've not got an expensive car to devalue whilst I hold out for something sporty in a couple of years.

Cayenne all day long. The hard ride in the 997 will keep waking the little mite up. You might have to spend a bit over £30k but it'll be worth it.

[stewart rix]

Get the 997 (if that's what you really want) for you and keep the family hack for lugging the family around. We've got young twins - whilst they were in the rear facing seats they only travelled in my wife's Touring. I kept my 993 daily drive on the basis that, when they were old enough, I could get the boys in forward facing child seats in the back. They're now 5 and love going in the 'turbo' .

[dasherdiablo1]

Carl_Docklands said:

Just a word to the wise, when my little one arrived I kept my 987 as it allowed me to escape and have some fun on my own without going too far. No holiday for two years does strange things to a mans mind.

I have considered this as an option; I can have the airbag deactivation and isofix points fitted for around £400 at an OPC (it's under OPC warranty). This means either car can be used to take the little one out if one of us need the bigger car. We can then just buy a small collapsible buggy to fit in rear boot for infrequent use.

[SonnyM]

dasherdiablo1 said:

Carl_Docklands said:

Just a word to the wise, when my little one arrived I kept my 987 as it allowed me to escape and have some fun on my own without going too far. No holiday for two years does strange things to a mans mind.

I have considered this as an option; I can have the airbag deactivation and isofix points fitted for around £400 at an OPC (it's under OPC warranty). This means either car can be used to take the little one out if one of us need the bigger car. We can then just buy a small collapsible buggy to fit in rear boot for infrequent use.

+1 You will need a break even if just going out to the shops or drying your brakes... Plus you can take the little one for a spin with the roof down for some fun extra. And you've got two usable boots.

Boxster = best all round car Porsche make.

[343bhp]

911 is hardwork for more than 2. Thought about getting a used E90 M3 saloon ? Great bargains now.

[Bill Stein]

sit in the back of a hot 997 and you will see it's not the place to put a baby or infant.

[dasherdiablo1]

Bill Stein said:

sit in the back of a hot 997 and you will see it's not the place to put a baby or infant.

I forgot how hot it used to get in the back of the 996! Then again I never sat in the back - just reached in to get a bag or coat out! This is definitely heading towards keeping what we've got (saving money in the process) whilst still maintaining a bit of freedom for 15 mins a week.

[Bill Stein]

dasherdiablo1 said:

I forgot how hot it used to get in the back of the 996! Then again I never sat in the back - just reached in to get a bag or coat out! This is definitely heading towards keeping what we've got (saving money in the process) whilst still maintaining a bit of freedom for 15 mins a week.

I bought a new 997 in 2006 and plonked my 8 year old daughter in the back for a run out to Wales July/August time, she very kindly puked up in it with only 200 miles on the clock. When i reached in the back to clear the mess as best i could with wet wipes, the seat and lower area's were very hot to the touch and the air was really hot. She's almost 14 now and always refers to that car even now as "the really hot car in the back". Funny enough she was in the back of my 930 last year and was fine, said it was nothing like the other 911. She said she was hot in the 997 at the time so i just put the window down a bit. Thing is a baby or small leg wobbler cant say how hot it is can they ? Get a Volvo, see you again in 10 years!! lol Good luck anyway with the nipper.

[GT Two]

We have been through this.

Get a Cayenne for the general stuff, you will be surprised how good they are and you still get that Porsche feeling.

Also got a 996 C4s which my son loves going in now he is in a front facing seat. A rear facing seat in a 911 is frustrating for the little one and you in such a small space.

Use the Cayenne for every day and the 911 for special runs out.