Opinions on this 996T please
Opinions on this 996T please
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CHJ

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785 posts

244 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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I have finally decided to buy a 911. Looked at this yesterday, drove it and love it. Think the 997 wheels wheels suit the car and price seems about right (and is just within my current budget)?

Just a little bit worried that the front aerokit spoiler might be too low for speed humps? It must have been caught before on a kerb or something, as there is a very slight ripple in the surface.


http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3655027.htm

Your opinions would be appreciated before I sign on the dotted line.


Cheers,

Chris

gtphile

191 posts

196 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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The aerokit front splitter does take a battering over bumps I'm afraid, and looks tired quickly due to it being painted.

A lot of people swap it out for the standard one, which is less deep, and doesn't stick out as much.

This will mean the aero is unmatched front to rear, but if you are not doing silly autobahn speeds, I would guess that you wouldn't notice.

BTW the wheels I don't think are genuine 997 Turbo wheels, the shape of the spokes don't look right to me, are they 18" or 19"?

Lovely looking car, in a fairly rare colour.

I would wholeheartedly recommend a independant inspection on the car before buying one tho.

Martian O

2,734 posts

193 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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You drove it, you loved it, within budget......get it inspected and buy it.

By the way, the wheels aren't genuine Porsche items and the rears don't look like the right offset. An inspection would/should advise you of this.

I wouldn't worry too much about the aerokit scrapes, it's a consumable as they all take a few scuffs every now and then.

gtphile

191 posts

196 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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The aerokit splitter is more expensive to buy, and needs painting, so is a bit more expensive than a consumable I would think.

Martian O

2,734 posts

193 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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gtphile said:
The aerokit splitter is more expensive to buy, and needs painting, so is a bit more expensive than a consumable I would think.
I too have a painted front splitter albeit the non-aerokit one. It cost £90 + £30 to have sprayed. I change it every year or so and have the old one rubbed down and resprayed so it only costs £30/year after the initial purchase price.

gtphile

191 posts

196 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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That makes it half the price of a standard one! I stand corrected!

F3RNANDO

5,186 posts

209 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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gtphile said:
The aerokit splitter is more expensive to buy, and needs painting, so is a bit more expensive than a consumable I would think.
There is a guy from the midlands knocks them out on ebay for 249 fully painted.

So as said above get 2 and just cycle them when one gets tired.

gtphile

191 posts

196 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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F3RNANDO said:
There is a guy from the midlands knocks them out on ebay for 249 fully painted.

So as said above get 2 and just cycle them when one gets tired.
That's a good price, just looked up the Porsche price, £381 + VAT in primer!

MrDarkBlack

4,001 posts

207 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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petop

2,408 posts

197 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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Chris, if that was you looking over the car yesterday mid-afternoon then its was me wandering around and having a look at it myself.
I have to agree it does look good and even though yesterday it had awaiting preperation sticker on it, looked immaculate. On looks alone in the flesh then yes i would have it but inspection, inspection, inspection!!!

On the garage itself, its only few miles from where i live and they always have nice cars in there as in now, DB9, M3 Dakar, Ferrari 430, couple of Porsche's, loads of XK's and they race their own 996 GT in race series that you probably saw in the showroom. I looked at a 996 C4S a bit ago in there, didnt buy as i was purely browsing but it only was in there for a week and they seem to have a good turnover.

g7jhp

7,034 posts

269 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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I like the exterior colour.

I don't like the interior colour, aerokit, 997 turbo style wheels and lack of sports seats.

If you like it get it inspected wink

rog007

5,831 posts

255 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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If it were me: I'd get it inspected; get £500 off price for cash (and to compensate for my least fave interior colour); demand 12 months MOT; demand 24 month RAC warranty to back up my statutory rights. They then may have a deal!

Martian O

2,734 posts

193 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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rog007 said:
....get £500 off price for cash...
I don't know why people still think this is a deal breaker. We all know the dealer gets a commission if he can sell finance!

rog007

5,831 posts

255 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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Martian O said:
I don't know why people still think this is a deal breaker. We all know the dealer gets a commission if he can sell finance!
Which may or may not get past the first order of credit checks and is slightly more time consuming. Cash really is still king!

Martian O

2,734 posts

193 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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I bought my 997 with cash, but the dealer really did try his hardest to get me to take finance.

Herbs

5,132 posts

260 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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Drove past this an hour ago and it caught my eye - looks good wink

CHJ

Original Poster:

785 posts

244 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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petop said:
Chris, if that was you looking over the car yesterday mid-afternoon then its was me wandering around and having a look at it myself.
I have to agree it does look good and even though yesterday it had awaiting preperation sticker on it, looked immaculate. On looks alone in the flesh then yes i would have it but inspection, inspection, inspection!!!

On the garage itself, its only few miles from where i live and they always have nice cars in there as in now, DB9, M3 Dakar, Ferrari 430, couple of Porsche's, loads of XK's and they race their own 996 GT in race series that you probably saw in the showroom. I looked at a 996 C4S a bit ago in there, didnt buy as i was purely browsing but it only was in there for a week and they seem to have a good turnover.
Hi, yes it was me. I agree, they are a good garage having serviced an XJR that I had for over 3 years - excellent. The car had been valeted, but not yet put through the workshop.

Chris


Martian O said:
By the way, the wheels aren't genuine Porsche items and the rears don't look like the right offset. An inspection would/should advise you of this.

I wouldn't worry too much about the aerokit scrapes, it's a consumable as they all take a few scuffs every now and then.
Thanks for the info. I was under the impression that they are original porsche wheels - they have the Porsche crests on. I'll investigate further.


Cheers,

Chris


s3nick

710 posts

250 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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The wheels are not genuine and that would bother me as the quality of alloy will not be great!!

Also make sure it is a genuine aerokit!

Apart from that it looks good to me.

I had a cobalt blue 996tt lovely colour!!!

Edited by s3nick on Saturday 18th February 20:10


Edited by s3nick on Saturday 18th February 20:17

thegoose

8,077 posts

241 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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CHJ said:
Thanks for the info. I was under the impression that they are original porsche wheels - they have the Porsche crests on. I'll investigate further.
AFAIK that design of wheel was only available as an original wheel in a 19" size - that's what the 997 turbo uses, which is the car the wheel was designed for (although I've had a Cayman S with them on as a factory option - different widths & offsets no doubt, but still genuine). The 996 Turbo only ever came with 18" wheels.

So, if they're 18" then they're replicas - check the widths and offsets and if they're all OK and you like them don't worry too much about it but perhaps try to negotiate a little to allow for buying a used replacement set of originals (£600-£1000, but you'll have the current ones to sell so net cost is less).

If they're 19's they could still be replicas so the above applies (but you'll need tyres too), but if they're genuine then their used value is probably a little higher than the correct wheels so whilst you might prefer to change to the correct wheels (for original ride and handling) the net cost will be nothing. Genuine Porsche wheels always used to have the width and offset number cast either side of the valve, I think these are the same which makes it easy to check.

s3nick

710 posts

250 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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thegoose said:
AFAIK that design of wheel was only available as an original wheel in a 19" size - that's what the 997 turbo uses, which is the car the wheel was designed for (although I've had a Cayman S with them on as a factory option - different widths & offsets no doubt, but still genuine). The 996 Turbo only ever came with 18" wheels.

So, if they're 18" then they're replicas - check the widths and offsets and if they're all OK and you like them don't worry too much about it but perhaps try to negotiate a little to allow for buying a used replacement set of originals (£600-£1000, but you'll have the current ones to sell so net cost is less).

If they're 19's they could still be replicas so the above applies (but you'll need tyres too), but if they're genuine then their used value is probably a little higher than the correct wheels so whilst you might prefer to change to the correct wheels (for original ride and handling) the net cost will be nothing. Genuine Porsche wheels always used to have the width and offset number cast either side of the valve, I think these are the same which makes it easy to check.
They dont look original to me as the angle on the spokes look a bit square to me.