911 GT3 RS 4.0L Buying advise

[jay_NW]

Hi all,

What you think of the price for this would be in about 2-3 years time? I was going to invest some money into a property but I’m in a good position to buy a nice 911 GT3 RS 4.0L for just under 190£K.

It’s a left hand drive with most optional extras added on as well.

Do you think the value of this would drop allot ?

Idea is to buy it, do few track days , enjoy the car and sell it on or even keep it if it works out.
When it comes to selling I think it will take some time as I can see there is one for sale now here on PH for 190K + VAT, been on sale since January.

What you guys think?

Thanks in advance

[mrdemon]

no one can tell, it's all down to how good the 991 GT3 is.

It takes a long while for Porsche cars to go up, look at 964 and 993 RS prices,

the GT3 RS 4.0 is already way over priced at 190k when it was 128k to buy new.
But it's a rare car, so who knows what it will do.

[housen]

christ that is a mark up

forget it !

wait till a much cheaper one turns up

im it will

[Mermaid]

The car is priced at speculator level.... if the car remains unused, there is scope for it to retain that value ( but many have the same idea & think how much it costs per annum) but otherwise there is only 1 way the price will go in the coming years.

[J-P]

At £190k it's too much money - there's no doubt that the car is utterly awesome but £60k over list is too much when you start to engage the brain - I'd pay more than list (up to £20k)but that's it!

PS: Don't drive one, you'll convince yourself that it's worth every penny of £190k!

[Phooey]

jay_NW said:

What you think of the price for this would be in about 2-3 years time?

less than £190k!



For the same money you could buy a 997.1 RS *and* a Scud. Both safe money imo.

[housen]

Phooey said:

jay_NW said:

What you think of the price for this would be in about 2-3 years time?

less than £190k!



For the same money you could buy a 997.1 RS *and* a Scud. Both safe money imo.

god yeah that does put it into perspective

that choice on a sunny sunday is to die for

plus rare cars indeed

why not a 360 cs ...100k gets you a minter ...and only 115 rhd

the other 90k into a sml property with a sml yield to defend your cash position on the 360 if it gos down ...which it prob wont

[Robbo66]

Does depend on new 991 GT3, byt 2 years £90k, 3 years £75K.

[SonnyM]

Robbo66 said:

Does depend on new 991 GT3, byt 2 years £90k, 3 years £75K.

Yes 991 GT3 will better the 4.0 there is no doubt.

[Mermaid]

Robbo66 said:

Does depend on new 991 GT3, byt 2 years £90k, 3 years £75K.

I very much doubt it will go south of £100k.

[Robbo66]

Mermaid said:

I very much doubt it will go south of £100k.

It will...

[housen]

http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/porsche.911%2...


ummmm unless im missing something this is 163k gbp

why not buy this one ?

or do you have to pay vat on this ?

[Mermaid]

Robbo66 said:

Mermaid said:

I very much doubt it will go south of £100k.

It will...

How do you justify that taking into account 6T3, 7GT3 values, rarity, cost when new?

[Robbo66]

Mermaid said:

How do you justify that taking into account 6T3, 7GT3 values, rarity, cost when new?

I consider it's price now a total abomination. New it was circa £125k, and the fickle will jump out of it when the 991 version comes in. You'll see a huge correction. Fantastic car, but nothing is bomb proof. Look at the Scud, and although the 4 is rarer, the 4 has commanded a higher premium and has further to fall IMO. Way, way overpriced at the mo. Defo sub £100k in 2-3 years.

[clorenzen]

The GT3 RS 4.0 is an awesome car. Some people might even say that it is the best car you can buy (if available) on the market at this point in time. This car should be bought (if you have the opportunity) for this in mind. If it happens to retain its value over time you should take that as an added bonus. Fact is, that the 4.0 will probably be the last analog car of its time. The combination of the naturally aspirated Mezger engine with its race heritage and a manual gearbox will probably be the last of its kind. The floppy paddle gearboxes will take over as they are both quicker and more fuel efficient. The steering is still hydraulic but will make way for an electric one which is also more fuel efficient - and probably not as bad as people would want to make it.

For comparisons as to price you have to bear in mind you will have to look at the German market - on mobile.de where a couple are advertised at a "reasonnable" premium to list price but with 10-15k kilometres under their belly. Also, when comparing the list price, you have to take into account, that there was a pretty extensive options list (this being Porsche). Mine is a fully specced one which includes PCCB brakes, Communication package, full leather, and a front end lifting system. This easily adds another 30k to the list price.

It is not an early car premium price you are paying, which was the case with the 458 or (would you believe) the MP C12. This will always evaporate once the early demand has been satisfied. With the RS 4.0 there are no more. 600 where produced (less than 1 per OPC) and they have all been sold and there are no more to come. So the question remains:
Will the 991 GT3 be a quicker car ? - undoubtedly. Will it be a better car or better value? - who knows.

Will it fall to 100k - unlikely - unless the geezer on this board knows something we all don't know - which I doubt.

For what I can say, this is a fantastic car to drive - quite extraordinary in fact and for that alone it is probably worth considering because there aren't that many alternatives out there.

Good luck hunting!

[Mermaid]

clorenzen said:

..

For what I can say, this is a fantastic car to drive - quite extraordinary in fact and for that alone it is probably worth considering because there aren't that many alternatives out there.

Good summary.

[wtdoom]

Robbo66 said:

... Defo sub £100k in 2-3 years.

never going to happen .
As for 991 being " better " that will entirely depend on how you quantify " better " .

Edited by wtdoom on Monday 26th March 15:03

[Robbo66]

anonymous said:

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Agreed, a special case. Also agree with you re the 996. But taking other 'owner/geezers' opinions out of the equation for the moment, I would liken it to the CS at best in market appreciation terms, but it's still not an F Car. It's yet another varient of the GT3, which was a another varient of the 997, and although superb in every detail, I cannot see how in 2-3 years it will not be sub £100k. Certainly not a 'classic', as the CS isn't either. I think the term classic is bandied about as an American would use the word 'awsome' in many cases.
Wait for the 991 GT3. Acid test.

[clorenzen]

.....awesome [aw-suhm]

[Mermaid]

Robbo66 said:

Agreed, a special case. ...
Wait for the 991 GT3. Acid test.

The 991 will be faster, more comfortable etc, but (maybe because of) may end up improving the appeal of the 997 GT3's, and the 4.0 especially so.

Those who track the 4.0 cars will probably switch, but I expect there will be many 4.0 garage queens.