N-rated tyres & Insurance
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I know whether to use N-rated tyres has been discussed before, but I contacted my insurance company (Elephant) concerning their use and this is their reply
"I can confirm as long as your tyres are road legal, there will not be any implications to your insurance, regardless of the rating of the tyre."
"I can confirm as long as your tyres are road legal, there will not be any implications to your insurance, regardless of the rating of the tyre."
paulsm said:
I know whether to use N-rated tyres has been discussed before, but I contacted my insurance company (Elephant) concerning their use and this is their reply
"I can confirm as long as your tyres are road legal, there will not be any implications to your insurance, regardless of the rating of the tyre."
Insurance isn't the issue. Losing control at high speed and hitting brick wall due to incorrect tyres and ending up in a coma for the rest of your life is probably more important. "I can confirm as long as your tyres are road legal, there will not be any implications to your insurance, regardless of the rating of the tyre."
Then again you could argue - who wants to live forever?
anonymous said:
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Indeed, I'm not thinking of fitting unbranded rubbish. Just because Porsche hasn't bothered to test a certain specific tyre does not make it dangerous. In fact it may even be a better tyre.I have seen posts where insurance validity was questioned, hence my original post.
paulsm said:
Indeed, I'm not thinking of fitting unbranded rubbish. Just because Porsche hasn't bothered to test a certain specific tyre does not make it dangerous. In fact it may even be a better tyre.
I have seen posts where insurance validity was questioned, hence my original post.
Indeed, I have just acquired some Michelin SuperSports for my GTS - should be a big improvement over the N rated Bridgestones that came on the car!I have seen posts where insurance validity was questioned, hence my original post.
Saddlebag said:
Is there any difference between a PZero Rosso N4 and a PZer Rosso non N?
In my experience, yes. Both are pretty hopeless, but one is pretty hopeless and sanctioned for use on a Porsche, the other isn't. But joking aside, I had both on a 996 GT3, and neither were confidence inspiring.
Slippydiff said:
In my experience, yes. Both are pretty hopeless, but one is pretty hopeless and sanctioned for use on a Porsche, the other isn't.
It appears that Porsche have gone with Pirelli PZero Rossos as the "exclusive" tyre for all 981s, so they don't share your opinion. FWIW neither do it - have had them on my 986 since purchase used in 2006 and can't fault them.spyderman8 said:
It appears that Porsche have gone with Pirelli PZero Rossos as the "exclusive" tyre for all 981s, so they don't share your opinion. FWIW neither do it - have had them on my 986 since purchase used in 2006 and can't fault them.
And you don't think cost might have something to do with the decision to fit them exclusively to all 981s ? As for your views on them, they'll be subjective (as are mine) but one would have to ask the question : how do you drive your car? and what criteria are you judging them on ?
The majority of posts on here consider the Michelin equivalent to be far superior in terms of wear, wet and dry grip, response and consistency of grip throughout the tyres life. The Pirellis were prone to flatspotting when left overnight (especially after being used hard) incredibly noisy as they reached the end of their life, pretty lacking in grip in the wet, intolerant of slight pressure deviations, suffered from overly soft sidewalls (hence the flat spotting I assume)and less outright grip than the Michelin PS and PS2 in the dry.
I well known writer in a highly regarded monthly magazine overheard my comments about Pirellis whilst sat round the dinner table (my car was being used for a feature they were producing) "You're right, they're useless, but we're not allowewd to say as much as they advertise with us . . . "
Slippydiff said:
The majority of posts on here consider the Michelin equivalent to be far superior in terms of wear, wet and dry grip, response and consistency of grip throughout the tyres life. The Pirellis were prone to flatspotting when left overnight (especially after being used hard) incredibly noisy as they reached the end of their life, pretty lacking in grip in the wet, intolerant of slight pressure deviations, suffered from overly soft sidewalls (hence the flat spotting I assume)and less outright grip than the Michelin PS and PS2 in the dry.
Apart from the above Pirellis are fine.Not personally happy to see them as standard on 991 either. Hoping something else will be out by the time mine arrives but doubt it. Will swap to Michelin PSS (non N rated if still not ratified by then) all round as soon as the rears lose performance. Which won't take long.
anonymous said:
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Okay for first two years under manufacturer's warranty but not thereafter unless they change the terms of the 3rd year+. Checked this with OPC who sold me them. Yes, OPCs sell non-N rated and fit them to your car as well (centrelock wheels!!) but don't ask me which one because it was obviously not something they wanted to broadcast.
Slippydiff said:
And you don't think cost might have something to do with the decision to fit them exclusively to all 981s ?
Arf - you could be right!
[quote]As for your views on them, they'll be subjective (as are mine) but one would have to ask the question : how do you drive your car? and what criteria are you judging them on ?
spyderman8 said:
Slippydiff said:
And you don't think cost might have something to do with the decision to fit them exclusively to all 981s ?
Arf - you could be right!
[quote]As for your views on them, they'll be subjective (as are mine) but one would have to ask the question : how do you drive your car? and what criteria are you judging them on ?
The PZR is the best evidence that the N rating is meaningless; if it meant anything they wouldn't get the rating unless there is a very wide range for acceptance, which goes against the very principle.
Maybe it's shortcomings aren't so noticeable on a boxster?
What tyres have you tried on your car?
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