2008 2s manual what to check?

[Xps911]

I'm test driving the above having not driven a manual 997 before how do I know if have quick shift fitted? Also what else to check?
Spec aero body kit, pse, suspension button, 10000 miles, aftermarket daytime led on front. Prob a bit more but only briefly saw it seeing it more later today when I test drive her.

[khushy]

buying one without an OPC warranty will be commercial suicide!

[Actus Reus]

Xps911 said:

I'm test driving the above having not driven a manual 997 before how do I know if have quick shift fitted? Also what else to check?
Spec aero body kit, pse, suspension button, 10000 miles, aftermarket daytime led on front. Prob a bit more but only briefly saw it seeing it more later today when I test drive her.

The throw on a quick shift is very short and quite notchy. If you've not driven a manual 997 before it might be difficult to tell, but standard throw is, to my mind, a little long.

[Xps911]

khushy said:

buying one without an OPC warranty will be commercial suicide!

Why?

[Actus Reus]

Because the IMS and RMS will fail, and the bores will score and you'll need a whole new engine...

On the other hand nothing will happen at all and you'll be fine. Personally I sleep better with a warranty, but horses for courses.

[thegoose]

Actus Reus said:

Because the IMS and RMS will fail, and the bores will score and you'll need a whole new engine...

On the other hand nothing will happen at all and you'll be fine. Personally I sleep better with a warranty, but horses for courses.

If the VIN goes like this WPOZZZ99Z9S7xxxxx it should be a Gen 2 anyway, so the above may not apply.

[khushy]

isnt "coking" the new IMS/RMS/Bore-Score etc etc?

khushy

[thegoose]

[quote=khushy]isnt "coking" the new IMS/RMS/Bore-Score etc etc?


Could be?

[khushy]

thegoose]hushy said:

isnt "coking" the new IMS/RMS/Bore-Score etc etc?


Could be?

is that you goosey?

[mollytherocker]

thegoose said:

If the VIN goes like this WPOZZZ99Z9S7xxxxx it should be a Gen 2 anyway, so the above may not apply.

He said it has aftermarket daytime lights fitted so I guess its a Gen 1.

MTR

[Xps911]

It's def a gen 1. Priced at 38995 comes with 18month Porsche warranty. Has mf steering wheel , sport seats, alum trim, white stitching, no cd changer

[mollytherocker]

Xps911 said:

It's def a gen 1. Priced at 38995 comes with 18month Porsche warranty. Has mf steering wheel , sport seats, alum trim, white stitching, no cd changer

At this level of spend, I would get a gen 2 car with the better engine.

MTR

[Xps911]

Don't see any gen2 with aero for sale for that price

Engine seems fine loving the manual but does feel a bit long to 3rd.

What's a good price?

[Ian_UK1]

khushy said:

isnt "coking" the new IMS/RMS/Bore-Score etc etc?

khushy

I posted a link a few weeks ago to a thread on 6-speed that proves this not to be the case. A guy in the good ol' US of A was having an X-51 kit fitted to his Gen-2 997 and photographed the valves for all to see. The engine had done 26,000 miles and there was only mild surface carbonising of the valve backs and intake port walls - far less than you'd expect in a DFI engine and a million miles away from the problems Audi had with their engines.

Piccy again below for those who didn't see it last time....

[PGN 500sl]

mollytherocker said:

At this level of spend, I would get a gen 2 car with the better engine.

MTR

any examples of Gen 2's at the OP's price then?

[mollytherocker]

PGN 500sl said:

mollytherocker said:

At this level of spend, I would get a gen 2 car with the better engine.

MTR

any examples of Gen 2's at the OP's price then?

Theres a few about at close to it and in my view well worth a little extra. Here is an example which in no way do I endorse!

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3833527.htm

MTR

[Rockster]

Xps911 said:

I'm test driving the above having not driven a manual 997 before how do I know if have quick shift fitted? Also what else to check?
Spec aero body kit, pse, suspension button, 10000 miles, aftermarket daytime led on front. Prob a bit more but only briefly saw it seeing it more later today when I test drive her.

Can't help with the shifter question, but the car is just a used car so you should check *everything*.

What I recommend is visit the car with it dead cold. Be sure the A/C is off. (You can check this after the test ride/drive.)

Be sure the CEL and all other warning lights come on when you turn on the key and go off when the engine starts.

Listen to the engine idle as it warms up. It should sound ok. What is ok and what is not ok comes from experience listening to healthy and sick engines, but generally you should not hear any distinct, repeating ticks, knocks, and so on.

Have teh seller take you on a 15 mile test ride. Insist this cover a route that the driver can demo the car in a variety of scenarios. Idling, stop and go, cruising, high speed, hard acceleration, with various levels of braking to match.

Back at the starting line you take the car out as a driver and follow the same route, drive the car the same way.

The engine should behave at all times, pull smooth from idle to redline and after an upshift and with continued throttle.

Once back after your test drive, then you can check the rest of the car out, if you still like the car.

Then if you still like the car, believe you can make a deal for it, have it PPI'd. This comes after the test ride/drive for this activity will help manifest any fluid leaks.

Sincerely,

Rockster.

[Xps911]

Many thanks rockster.
That gen2 is awful I wouldn't buy it, this car really looks good but cant agree on a price with the dealer that we ate both happy with