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PorkaFly

Original Poster:

502 posts

193 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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Guys - quick help pls. I'm in CostCo looking at the shelves if Mobil1 and am now confused which one. 0W-40 in gold packaging?

Txs in advance!

PF


Porkupine

1,722 posts

195 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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Nice!! You are well on the way to saving yourself a £100!!

And yes I think it is the 0W-40!

mohitos

1,313 posts

229 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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Porkupine said:
Nice!! You are well on the way to saving yourself a £100!!
I think this could run and run!

PorkaFly

Original Poster:

502 posts

193 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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Ha, Txs but we all know we end with crap we don't need when we go to CostCo or at least "spending to save". I've already bought a new set (my second) of Michelin Pilot Super Sports so that did save a packet!

PF

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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When I looked a couple of days ago they had 0w- and 5w- Mobil 1. Which you need depends on your cars age and the engines condition.

0w is recommended for most Porsches now, I believe, although I really need a 10w or maybe even a 15w synthetic, which wont ever sell in sufficient quantity for Costco to stock.

Im sure that youll find the information in the owners handbook.

Porkupine

1,722 posts

195 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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GC8 said:
When I looked a couple of days ago they had 0w- and 5w- Mobil 1. Which you need depends on your cars age and the engines condition.

0w is recommended for most Porsches now, I believe, although I really need a 10w or maybe even a 15w synthetic, which wont ever sell in sufficient quantity for Costco to stock.

Im sure that youll find the information in the owners handbook.
He might not have that with him whilst he is wondering around the Costco aisles!

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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True, but without the gift of second sight (or the OP mentioning his vehicle model/age in his post), its hard to help further...

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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0w-, if its the car on the profile, I believe.

Ian_UK1

1,515 posts

224 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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GC8 said:
When I looked a couple of days ago they had 0w- and 5w- Mobil 1. Which you need depends on your cars age and the engines condition.

0w is recommended for most Porsches now, I believe, although I really need a 10w or maybe even a 15w synthetic, which wont ever sell in sufficient quantity for Costco to stock.

Im sure that youll find the information in the owners handbook.
Sorry, but your comments about 5W-40 or 10W-40 oils are utter nonsense. Both those oils are exactly the same viscosity (i.e. thick/thinness) at running temp (nominally 100 degrees C) as 0W-40. It's the '40' part that tells you they're the same at running temp. The only difference is how much the 3 oils thicken-up as they cool down. At 0 degrees C, the 5W will be thicker (and slower to get round your engine) than a 0W. The 10W will be thicker again than the 5W. All 3 are massively thicker when cold than when hot.

If you want an oil that is thicker when hot, you'd need a 0W-50 or 5W-50. Bear in mind that because car oiling systems use a pressure relief valve and positive displacement pump, you'll REDUCE the flow of oil around your engine at running temp by using a 50-weight oil. You may see marginally more pressure, but a bigger proportion of your oil will be going out of the relief valve - not into the business end of your engine to lubricate and cool.

You really are best to stay with what the designers of your engine recommend - there are far too many variables to play with oil grades.

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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Ian_UK1 said:
GC8 said:
When I looked a couple of days ago they had 0w- and 5w- Mobil 1. Which you need depends on your cars age and the engines condition.

0w is recommended for most Porsches now, I believe, although I really need a 10w or maybe even a 15w synthetic, which wont ever sell in sufficient quantity for Costco to stock.

Im sure that youll find the information in the owners handbook.
Sorry, but your comments about 5W-40 or 10W-40 oils are utter nonsense. Both those oils are exactly the same viscosity (i.e. thick/thinness) at running temp (nominally 100 degrees C) as 0W-40. It's the '40' part that tells you they're the same at running temp. The only difference is how much the 3 oils thicken-up as they cool down. At 0 degrees C, the 5W will be thicker (and slower to get round your engine) than a 0W. The 10W will be thicker again than the 5W. All 3 are massively thicker when cold than when hot.

If you want an oil that is thicker when hot, you'd need a 0W-50 or 5W-50. Bear in mind that because car oiling systems use a pressure relief valve and positive displacement pump, you'll REDUCE the flow of oil around your engine at running temp by using a 50-weight oil. You may see marginally more pressure, but a bigger proportion of your oil will be going out of the relief valve - not into the business end of your engine to lubricate and cool.

You really are best to stay with what the designers of your engine recommend - there are far too many variables to play with oil grades.
I havent made any comments about 5w or 10w oils. I have stated that my car needs 10w or 15w oil.

If you had been a little better brought up, then youd have stated that you disagreed and then explained why; rather than posting as you have.

Your post appears to be utter nonsense.

mollytherocker

14,467 posts

239 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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How much can you save buying your own oil?

























paperbag

eagle1

134 posts

228 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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Ian_UK1 said:
Sorry, but your comments about 5W-40 or 10W-40 oils are utter nonsense. Both those oils are exactly the same viscosity (i.e. thick/thinness) at running temp (nominally 100 degrees C) as 0W-40. It's the '40' part that tells you they're the same at running temp. The only difference is how much the 3 oils thicken-up as they cool down. At 0 degrees C, the 5W will be thicker (and slower to get round your engine) than a 0W. The 10W will be thicker again than the 5W. All 3 are massively thicker when cold than when hot.

If you want an oil that is thicker when hot, you'd need a 0W-50 or 5W-50. Bear in mind that because car oiling systems use a pressure relief valve and positive displacement pump, you'll REDUCE the flow of oil around your engine at running temp by using a 50-weight oil. You may see marginally more pressure, but a bigger proportion of your oil will be going out of the relief valve - not into the business end of your engine to lubricate and cool.

You really are best to stay with what the designers of your engine recommend - there are far too many variables to play with oil grades.
This is far too simplistic, I suggest you read some of the more technical articles. The simplest answer is to quote Baz Hartech who probably knows these engines better than anyone and who replied to a similar post as follows:
  • ***am not tribolgy expert and will not get drawn into arguments about oil - but the idea that oil thickens up when it gets hot is in my experience wrong. I think the claim is that it works as well as higher grade oil when hot - but this doesn't take into account that when bearings wear the lateral clearance is greater so the oil has less resistance to squeezing out the side of shells etc and therefore does not support the bearings as well. Similarly if the oil is a thicker grade it usually is thicker when hot and I have had my amateur ideas discussed with technical oil racing experts from Mobil and Castrol and both agree with my general view.******

mohitos

1,313 posts

229 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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mollytherocker said:
How much can you save buying your own oil?



paperbag
By all accounts it's a three figure sum.

Bennachie

1,091 posts

181 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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IF the OPC allows you to supply your own oil................

mollytherocker

14,467 posts

239 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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mohitos said:
mollytherocker said:
How much can you save buying your own oil?



paperbag
By all accounts it's a three figure sum.
What, about £100?

MTR

rog007

5,831 posts

254 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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But isn't that like going to a restaurant and taking your own wine........

iandews

2,893 posts

201 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Do you think he's still in Costco waiting for an answer? biggrin