991S PDCC vs 991 - Performance comparison
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After Evo weighed in earlier in the year with a head to head, without the performance stats, the top Italian mag has done a piece by piece performance comparison of both cars.
Looks like same driver and same conditions with stock tyres and 20inch wheels.
C2S = 2 mins 52.8.5
C2 = 2 mins 54.0.0
They have posted the times on fastest-laps.
Timed by the same mag on the same course, the C2S time is in line with an '12 R8 V8 and the C2 time is as quick as the '09 997 C2S PDK....
I suspect that the "basic" 991 is probably all the car we will ever need in the real world.
The problem is you sit down with the brochure and somehow convince yourself that the "S" is one for you. Then you look at Options and gradually sell yourself a whole host of enhancements that probably don't make anything other than a marginal difference to on-the-limit performance.
You can get a "basic" 991 for £70k.
Stonking performance for the money?
The problem is you sit down with the brochure and somehow convince yourself that the "S" is one for you. Then you look at Options and gradually sell yourself a whole host of enhancements that probably don't make anything other than a marginal difference to on-the-limit performance.
You can get a "basic" 991 for £70k.
Stonking performance for the money?
Helicopter123 said:
I suspect that the "basic" 991 is probably all the car we will ever need in the real world.
The problem is you sit down with the brochure and somehow convince yourself that the "S" is one for you. Then you look at Options and gradually sell yourself a whole host of enhancements that probably don't make anything other than a marginal difference to on-the-limit performance.
You can get a "basic" 991 for £70k.
Stonking performance for the money?
For a bit more add PCCBs and sports suspension, decent GT3 alternative ??The problem is you sit down with the brochure and somehow convince yourself that the "S" is one for you. Then you look at Options and gradually sell yourself a whole host of enhancements that probably don't make anything other than a marginal difference to on-the-limit performance.
You can get a "basic" 991 for £70k.
Stonking performance for the money?
Porkupine said:
Helicopter123 said:
Stonking performance for the money?
No. A 996tt is this. Your 70k will get you all kind of performance cars. It is however a good buy in other respects I would say., i.e. if you want to be the first with the latest model, the base is perhaps a good way to go. But its a 10 year old car with all the potential issues and hassle that can bring.
s2000db said:
I'd still like to see a performance comparison between identical cars with and without PDCC. any one seen one yet?
I'm pretty sure no such comparison exists. I've sure looked hard enough for one. But Shirley what matters us which gives more enjoyment? And that is always going to be a subjective choice.SFO said:
1.5 secs slower over about 180 seconds is pretty negligible
Its less that 1%. And its only been achieved by a proficient driver under controlled conditions.A lightly specced standard Carrera is all you need. I suppose I could go further and suggest that most people cant get 100% out of an MX5, but that would be silly.
I understand why people get seduced by all of these electronic acronyms and brakes invented for trains but Porsches are about simple fun?
MTR
BnB said:
s2000db said:
I'd still like to see a performance comparison between identical cars with and without PDCC. any one seen one yet?
I'm pretty sure no such comparison exists. I've sure looked hard enough for one. But Shirley what matters us which gives more enjoyment? And that is always going to be a subjective choice.
Tony 1234 said:
I've driven a standard 991 and found it just numb, the 'S' is in another league altogether especially with PDCC
Don't both cars have the same chassis ? PDCC reduces roll (whether this is a good or bad thing is a personal preference I guess), so I don't understand how both cars can be in a different league ?
Providing that one is able to drive to the limits of lat grip and traction, it would seem as though PDCC doesn't really help performance, based on the above lap times. And for the average road driver, I assume it's easier to drive near the limit without PDCC, as surely, roll is your best friend when it comes to have a feel for how much lat load is applied.
Edited by nickfrog on Monday 16th July 14:33
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