Brake Pad Recommendations Please.....
Discussion
.... for a 997S.2 for road use and occasional track days.
My 997S.2 is in need of new brake pads so I thought I'd ask everyone's opinion of what the best pads are for road use and occasional track days. I tend not to use the 997 as a daily driver any more, but it does get used evenings and weekends as a road car, so I need pads that aren't really horrible when cold, don't squeal permanently, yet have a bit more resiliance for track use. I'll obviously replace both front and rear pads at the same time.
The car is on the standard, Porsche 997S.2, steel discs - these are still in tolerance with no evidence of cracking. I'm assuming they're fine for the way I use the car?
Look forward to your advice.
My 997S.2 is in need of new brake pads so I thought I'd ask everyone's opinion of what the best pads are for road use and occasional track days. I tend not to use the 997 as a daily driver any more, but it does get used evenings and weekends as a road car, so I need pads that aren't really horrible when cold, don't squeal permanently, yet have a bit more resiliance for track use. I'll obviously replace both front and rear pads at the same time.
The car is on the standard, Porsche 997S.2, steel discs - these are still in tolerance with no evidence of cracking. I'm assuming they're fine for the way I use the car?
Look forward to your advice.
A few people I know are using the Endless MX72 compound. Provides great pedal feel in town (not too harsh) but at the same time at high speed the pad returns great feel. Also the hotter you get the pad it seems to work much better, longevity wise they have used them for (and still) 5+ hard track days (including 1 ring trip)!
They are quite hard to get a hold of in the UK it seems. Quite expensive but it seems to have some rave reviews, especially with the track-day only guys!
With reference to the discs the OE Porsche discs are very good, if you are worried about the disc have it inspected whilst the pads are being changed! It's not just cracking you want to be worried about it's un-even pad deposits that can be mistaken by most for warping. There are many solutions on the market, there is a company in the US called Giro-Disc that make OE replacement 2 piece floating bell discs (I believe)That are a pretty cool solution!!
Hope this helps!
They are quite hard to get a hold of in the UK it seems. Quite expensive but it seems to have some rave reviews, especially with the track-day only guys!
With reference to the discs the OE Porsche discs are very good, if you are worried about the disc have it inspected whilst the pads are being changed! It's not just cracking you want to be worried about it's un-even pad deposits that can be mistaken by most for warping. There are many solutions on the market, there is a company in the US called Giro-Disc that make OE replacement 2 piece floating bell discs (I believe)That are a pretty cool solution!!
Hope this helps!
Ian_UK1 said:
sportsandclassic said:
Hi Ian,
I have had good experience with Pagid RS4-2 pads.
Reasonable bite when cold and good enough for track work too.
Mike
Hi Mike, thanks for the reply. I have had good experience with Pagid RS4-2 pads.
Reasonable bite when cold and good enough for track work too.
Mike
Where would be the best place to buy a set of these?
Ian
I will price you a set up tomorrow. Is it front and back you want ?
RSSAsh said:
A few people I know are using the Endless MX72 compound. Provides great pedal feel in town (not too harsh) but at the same time at high speed the pad returns great feel. Also the hotter you get the pad it seems to work much better, longevity wise they have used them for (and still) 5+ hard track days (including 1 ring trip)!
They are quite hard to get a hold of in the UK it seems. Quite expensive but it seems to have some rave reviews, especially with the track-day only guys!
With reference to the discs the OE Porsche discs are very good, if you are worried about the disc have it inspected whilst the pads are being changed! It's not just cracking you want to be worried about it's un-even pad deposits that can be mistaken by most for warping. There are many solutions on the market, there is a company in the US called Giro-Disc that make OE replacement 2 piece floating bell discs (I believe)That are a pretty cool solution!!
Hope this helps!
Endless are good but overpriced, cheap they are not, or you will get a very good deal on Performance Friction from "Deutsch-Tech" the Porsche Indy, email ben ben@deutschtech.co.uk They are quite hard to get a hold of in the UK it seems. Quite expensive but it seems to have some rave reviews, especially with the track-day only guys!
With reference to the discs the OE Porsche discs are very good, if you are worried about the disc have it inspected whilst the pads are being changed! It's not just cracking you want to be worried about it's un-even pad deposits that can be mistaken by most for warping. There are many solutions on the market, there is a company in the US called Giro-Disc that make OE replacement 2 piece floating bell discs (I believe)That are a pretty cool solution!!
Hope this helps!
sportsandclassic said:
Hi Ian,
I will price you a set up tomorrow. Is it front and back you want ?
Hi Mike - thanks for that. It's only the fronts that are getting particularly thin, but I guess it would be a good idea to replace both front and rear if I'm changing pad compound? I'll PM you with my car details.I will price you a set up tomorrow. Is it front and back you want ?
dadofbud said:
Ian
Try Performance Friction Z rated, ideal for road use ( no squealing ) and more than man enough for the odd track day and give off very little pad dust
Thanks for the recommendation - I've read good reports about the Performance Friction items as I have about Pagid, Mintex and others. I will e-mail ben at Deutschtech for pricing today.Try Performance Friction Z rated, ideal for road use ( no squealing ) and more than man enough for the odd track day and give off very little pad dust
RSSAsh said:
A few people I know are using the Endless MX72 compound. Provides great pedal feel in town (not too harsh) but at the same time at high speed the pad returns great feel. Also the hotter you get the pad it seems to work much better, longevity wise they have used them for (and still) 5+ hard track days (including 1 ring trip)!
They are quite hard to get a hold of in the UK it seems. Quite expensive but it seems to have some rave reviews, especially with the track-day only guys!
With reference to the discs the OE Porsche discs are very good, if you are worried about the disc have it inspected whilst the pads are being changed! It's not just cracking you want to be worried about it's un-even pad deposits that can be mistaken by most for warping. There are many solutions on the market, there is a company in the US called Giro-Disc that make OE replacement 2 piece floating bell discs (I believe)That are a pretty cool solution!!
Hope this helps!
Hi Ash, thanks for the recommendation. Looks like a very interesting solution (they're stated to be a carbon ceramic material) but I simply can't find them anywhere in the UK for my car. The prices for other vehicles seem very high too, as stated above.They are quite hard to get a hold of in the UK it seems. Quite expensive but it seems to have some rave reviews, especially with the track-day only guys!
With reference to the discs the OE Porsche discs are very good, if you are worried about the disc have it inspected whilst the pads are being changed! It's not just cracking you want to be worried about it's un-even pad deposits that can be mistaken by most for warping. There are many solutions on the market, there is a company in the US called Giro-Disc that make OE replacement 2 piece floating bell discs (I believe)That are a pretty cool solution!!
Hope this helps!
sportsandclassic said:
Hi Ian,
I have had good experience with Pagid RS4-2 pads.
Reasonable bite when cold and good enough for track work too.
Mike
+1 I've used these in several cars, and always found that they provide much more initial bite (cold or hot) and hence needed less pedal pressure to generate the required retardation. I never managed to get them to fade, no matter how hard I used them! I have had good experience with Pagid RS4-2 pads.
Reasonable bite when cold and good enough for track work too.
Mike
Ian_UK1 said:
Hi Ash, thanks for the recommendation. Looks like a very interesting solution (they're stated to be a carbon ceramic material) but I simply can't find them anywhere in the UK for my car. The prices for other vehicles seem very high too, as stated above.
Endless are quite hard to get in the UK! If you call a couple of indys for a quote im sure they will have the information! Otherwise if you are looking for a road / track pad with low pad wear, easy on the brake disc, great track performance then the Pagid RS-29 may be the way to go!
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