Pagid discs
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J Chitty

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140 posts

165 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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Hi all, anyone tried Pagid discs on the front of your Porsche?

Please, no only buy from Porsche or the world will come to an end PLEASE


thegoose

8,075 posts

232 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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I know a few specialists who won't fit the Pagid price-led discs from Euro Car Parts anymore, due to inferior quality. Sebro or Zimmerman are fine though.

Shewie

558 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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Have Pagid discs and pads all round on my 996 C4S. Had them fitted by an indie in December and have done about 3k on them. Haven't had any problems using them in anger on fast B roads and a couple of flying laps at Castle Combe, so would happily recommend. They are way better than the OEM discs that were previously on it, but as they were massively corroded and heavily worn I guess thats not much of a comparison! biglaugh

marky911

4,433 posts

241 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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thegoose said:
I know a few specialists who won't fit the Pagid price-led discs from Euro Car Parts anymore, due to inferior quality. Sebro or Zimmerman are fine though.
This!

Pagid now under the Euro car parts umbrella and quality is not what it once was.

Fitted fronts a while ago. One warped while still bedding them in.

Fitted rear discs and pads a couple of months ago. One disc had been manufactured incorrectly. Screw hole in face out of position.
Pad material was undersize. It didn't go to edge of disc hence a big lip would build up quickly on the new discs.

I'd say chance the discs and if they go on ok and you get a few hundred miles on them, you'll probably be fine but don't bother with the pads.

Go for textar pads.
Hope this helps. smile

J Chitty

Original Poster:

140 posts

165 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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I think that answers that one thanks.


nickfrog

23,993 posts

239 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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I'd be even more concerned about Pagid pads (unless they are Textar branded, which they sometimes are in a Pagid box...).

chris7676

2,685 posts

242 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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What an irony, mine just arrived today (for the Boxster S)...
Are there any attractively priced alternatives ?

mudy

874 posts

194 months

Thursday 26th July 2012
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I had them fitted to the front of my turbo in jan and there were awful - very squeaky and not good stopping power - so bad had to take them out for oem alternatives - now all better

FisiP1

1,279 posts

175 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Fitted myself to now departed Cayman on the front. Then did 5k miles in 4 weeks on them, very impressed and no issues at all despite incredibly heavy usage shortly after bed in completion.


Oh and dont be stupid and do a half arsed job cleaning the coating off the braking surface before fitting. Even a bit of that stuff contaminating the pads will kill performance and squeal badly.

Edited by FisiP1 on Friday 27th July 01:51

GC8

19,910 posts

212 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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I surprised to see how poorly Pagid products are regarded now. A few years ago Id have said that Pagid, ATE & Textar were all OEM suppliers to Porsche and that you wouldnt go wrogn with any of their products.

Now it sounds as though Pagid are worse even than Zimmerman.

Matt Seabrook

563 posts

273 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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marky911 said:
This!

Pagid now under the Euro car parts umbrella and quality is not what it once was.

Fitted fronts a while ago. One warped while still bedding them in.
Did you clean and measure run out when fitting the new discs? It's unusual to have discs warp in such a short time unless the fitted run out is wrong.

marky911

4,433 posts

241 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Runout? What's that. wink

My mate/specialist fitted them. Fitted the next set exactly the same way and they've been fine.

Couldn't honestly say if he measured runout though.

Eta - Obviously cleaned them though.

Trev450

6,635 posts

194 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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marky911 said:
Runout? What's that. wink

My mate/specialist fitted them. Fitted the next set exactly the same way and they've been fine.

Couldn't honestly say if he measured runout though.

Eta - Obviously cleaned them though.
Sometimes if the face that the disc bolts to (hub) is not cleaned up it can also lead to run out.

chris7676

2,685 posts

242 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Cleaing the new discs ?confused

Output Flange

17,008 posts

233 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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chris7676 said:
Cleaing the new discs ?confused
They have an anti-rust coating on them when new that you need to clean off with a can of brake cleaner.

marky911

4,433 posts

241 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Trev450 said:
Sometimes if the face that the disc bolts to (hub) is not cleaned up it can also lead to run out.
Yep, understood.
He definitely cleans all components involved. Doubt he put a dti clock on them though. Doubt I would either, were I fitting them.

Chris. If you already have the discs, give them a good wipe with brake clean as stated above and stick 'em on.

If they physically go on ok and feel fine when in use, you'll be fine.

Must add, despite the faults I've had, my brakes work very very well under normal and hard road use now. So for the price they're ok.

Nano2nd

3,426 posts

278 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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i thought OEM Porsche stuff was Pagid/textar etc? my pads i just put in were textar, even if they did come in Porsche boxes! the discs frankly could of been anything in anonymous brown boxes with absolutely no markings whatsoever!

Matt Seabrook

563 posts

273 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Ok. It's just something I do on every set of brake discs I fit. Sometimes just moving the discs round to the next stud hole if possible is enough to correct 0.1mm run out on the edge of a brake disk. And yes anything more than 0.1mm run out is likely to cause a vibration in not very many miles.

marky911 said:
Yep, understood.
He definitely cleans all components involved. Doubt he put a dti clock on them though. Doubt I would either, were I fitting them.

nickfrog

23,993 posts

239 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Nano2nd said:
i thought OEM Porsche stuff was Pagid/textar etc? my pads i just put in were textar, even if they did come in Porsche boxes! the discs frankly could of been anything in anonymous brown boxes with absolutely no markings whatsoever!
Yes OEM pads are Textar, which, like Pagid is a brand that belongs to TMD Friction. Problem is, the Textar compound is different to the Pagid compound and the Pagid compound is poor (in my experience). But as I said, you sometimes get a Textar compound in a Pagid box (ie OE), which is good but not guaranteed.

GC8

19,910 posts

212 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Pagid brake kit used to be superior to ATE/Textar.