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Will the factory ever match the granite-esq build quality of the 928 again ? Mine has 105K on the clock and my friends 218K, not a single rattle or squeak from either. Both on same engines & transmission, no rebuilds. Smooth as silk 
PS. Anyone know who bought his one at auction ?
http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?...
PS. Anyone know who bought his one at auction ?
http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?...
Bo_apex said:
Will the factory ever match the granite-esq build quality of the 928 again ? Mine has 105K on the clock and my friends 218K, not a single rattle or squeak from either. Both on same engines & transmission, no rebuilds. Smooth as silk
PS. Anyone know who bought his one at auction ?
http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?...
Know what you mean. My old 968 still didn't have one rattle, even at 19 years old. The cayman r I had to drive for a day had the most annoying rattle and squeak, and that had only about 1k miles on the clock.PS. Anyone know who bought his one at auction ?
http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?...
Surprised me to be honest. I'd have had it sent back to cure it.
Porsche build quality peaked in about 1980, been declining gently ever since. It's obvious when you disassemble a few. The current cars are good vs the competition, but won't be being taken apart and repaired in the way that 3.2s and old 928s can be. It's just the way it is.
Similarly, that's why my new daily Merc estate, which I'm picking up tomorrow, is a W124. They haven't made an equal car since, let alone a better one.
Joel
Similarly, that's why my new daily Merc estate, which I'm picking up tomorrow, is a W124. They haven't made an equal car since, let alone a better one.
Joel
Everyone raves about build quality of old Porsches, but they are very prone to rust. At least the newer cars have a lot less rust traps and will almost certainly stand up better long term in this critical respect. Most C3.2s in the UK were starting to rust quite nicely by the 10 year mark, but you don't see that with 10 year old 996s and Boxsters unless they have had poor crash repairs etc. Many of the newer cars have also been to the moon and back and generally seem to have a harder daily life.
uktrailmonster said:
Everyone raves about build quality of old Porsches, but they are very prone to rust. At least the newer cars have a lot less rust traps and will almost certainly stand up better long term in this critical respect. Most C3.2s in the UK were starting to rust quite nicely by the 10 year mark, but you don't see that with 10 year old 996s and Boxsters unless they have had poor crash repairs etc. Many of the newer cars have also been to the moon and back and generally seem to have a harder daily life.
Yep. Both my 06 Boxster and 09 Cayman covered 90K in three years respectively, and felt as good as the day they left the showroom. Hopefully the 981 Cayman I will pick up next year will will follow suit....Sorry but can't agree. Engine and transmissions in 928 are good (assuming you don't suffer the dreaded thrust bearing failure) but the box comes from Merc and the engine is a biggish unstressed V8. And while the interior may not rattle it's hardly a paragon of quality (crap window switches and door straps, ashtray from a Tonka toy, and swathes of cheap plastic).
Great cars though - I had two - but not a patch on a modern 911.
My sec has s a VW Passat that has done 250,000 miles on same engine and box #perspective
Great cars though - I had two - but not a patch on a modern 911.
My sec has s a VW Passat that has done 250,000 miles on same engine and box #perspective
Old porsches are terrible for rust.
As mentioned earlier 911's have rust traps all over them no arch liners and from a corrosion perspective just a bad design.
I think old cars are all the same though, but i do think German cars are superior to all others when it comes to longevity.
You will still see 15-20 yr old VW/Audi/BM/Pork on the road how many Mark 4 and Mark 5 Escorts do you see these days?
BL/rovers forget it
996's you just don't see any apparent corrosion, 993's tend to rust, arches/front screen/rear screen.
As mentioned earlier 911's have rust traps all over them no arch liners and from a corrosion perspective just a bad design.
I think old cars are all the same though, but i do think German cars are superior to all others when it comes to longevity.
You will still see 15-20 yr old VW/Audi/BM/Pork on the road how many Mark 4 and Mark 5 Escorts do you see these days?
BL/rovers forget it
996's you just don't see any apparent corrosion, 993's tend to rust, arches/front screen/rear screen.
barchetta_boy said:
Porsche build quality peaked in about 1980, been declining gently ever since. It's obvious when you disassemble a few. The current cars are good vs the competition, but won't be being taken apart and repaired in the way that 3.2s and old 928s can be. It's just the way it is.
Similarly, that's why my new daily Merc estate, which I'm picking up tomorrow, is a W124. They haven't made an equal car since, let alone a better one.
Joel
Interesting, and probably ties in with the decadent position that Porsche were in back then with its wealthy stockholder, being able to concentrate on inherent quality, as opposed to profits. Makes you wonder what the price point of a 5.4 928 incarnation might be today, albeit probably producing around 600bhp? Similarly, that's why my new daily Merc estate, which I'm picking up tomorrow, is a W124. They haven't made an equal car since, let alone a better one.
Joel
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