Big cloud of white smoke on start up (Boxster 2.7)?
Big cloud of white smoke on start up (Boxster 2.7)?
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Frimley111R

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18,783 posts

260 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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I took the wife's Boxster to work on Friday and gave it a little work out on the way. TBH it was one short sprint on the journey of only about 1/4m (pointlessley racing a sport bike hehe) and apart form that nothing that I would say was anything particularly strenuous on the journey. No max rev stuff or hard acceleration.

The following day I started the car and there was a was big cloud of white smoke on start up but the engine ran fine and I can't get it to do it again. The car only has 50k on the clock and has been driven gently all its life.

I'm hoping its a one off but I've hoped for those before.....thoughts?

Edited by Frimley111R on Monday 13th August 10:12

MrTickle

1,825 posts

265 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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My GTS has 7K on the clock and does this about once per week, so I am hoping it's nothing sinister!

khushy

3,977 posts

245 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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I would say - situation normal or over-filled the oil!

Best to get it checked out properly though.

khushy

OlberJ

14,101 posts

259 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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White cloud rather than blue indicates not oil but water.

What was the weather like?

Frimley111R

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18,783 posts

260 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Weather was fine and smoke was white, not blue. Very odd.

MrTickle

1,825 posts

265 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Hmm... yes mine is more blue than white, which I understand is fairly normal.

I get a little white under normal conditions, which I put down to condensation in the exhaust, but not huge amounts as you described.

Gibbo205

3,572 posts

233 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Hi there

Probably just condensation in the exhaust system. If its not done it again, then don't worry.

If you really worried, get someone to follow you and boot it, if they see smoke get them to tell you what colour and how much, if no smoke nothing to worry about.

Some cars do this, some don't but I'd not be worrying about HGF or anything.

Frimley111R

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18,783 posts

260 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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I'm crossing my fingers and tieing a knot in a few things too...

mohitos

1,313 posts

225 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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MrTickle said:
My GTS has 7K on the clock and does this about once per week, so I am hoping it's nothing sinister!
Mine did this too. I asked a couple of OPC's to look at it and they both said it was 'normal' I still don't believe them !

mrfunex

549 posts

200 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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996 turbo here. Bit of blue smoke on start up roughly one in ten starts. It's nothing to worry about.

FisiP1

1,279 posts

179 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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White = nothing to worry about, shouldn't happen on every start.

Blue = could be bad news if it continues, especially if it is every start and/or continues while driving.

gsewell

720 posts

309 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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If the journey is short and/or the car has been standing overnight on a humid night, then there may have been condensation in the silencers that materialized as a white cloud on the next start.

gsewell

720 posts

309 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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If the journey is short and/or the car has been standing overnight on a humid night, then there may have been condensation in the silencers that materialized as a white cloud on the next start.

Rockster

1,515 posts

186 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Frimley111R said:
I took the wife's Boxster to work on Friday and gave it a little work out on the way. TBH it was one short sprint on the journey of only about 1/4m (pointlessley racing a sport bike hehe) and apart form that nothing that I would say was anything particularly strenuous on the journey. No max rev stuff or hard acceleration.

The following day I started the car and there was a was big cloud of white smoke on start up but the engine ran fine and I can't get it to do it again. The car only has 50k on the clock and has been driven gently all its life.

I'm hoping its a one off but I've hoped for those before.....thoughts?

Edited by Frimley111R on Monday 13th August 10:12
In spite of the white color I suspect the cloud of smoke was oil smoke.

If if was water vapor the cloud dissipates very quickly even if there is no wind/breeze.

Oil smoke hangs together as the cloud drifts downwind.

Given the circumstances of the car's usage before you parked it up, I'm guessing the smoke was oil smoke and this is normal.

Even new Porsches emit oil smoke upon startup and the techs tell me that all they do is observe that the smoking is short lived, observe if the engine is otherwise acting up, running abnormally rough, or if the CEL is flashing or even solid on, and absent any signs of distress pay the smoking no mind.

The hard running you engaged in I strongly suspect puts a lot of oil in the intake system, make that on the intake system's inner walls.

This oil comes from an AOS that is lousy at separating the oil vapor from the fumes it passes to the intake.

Upon engine shut off this oil on the intake manifold walls drains down and gathers in one or two cylinders and upon the next engine start clouds of oil smoke billow forth.

(Techs tell me that almost every engine that comes in that if they have an opportunity to inspect the intake manifold find the walls damp/even wet with oil.)

My usual advice to cut down on the smoking chances is to use a proper oil, make sure the oil is not too old, that is has too many miles on it from which is gets thinned out by water and unburned gasoline, and the engine is not overfilled with oil.

If you can before you shut off the engine give it a moment of idle time. However, if you have been running the engine particularly hard this may not be enough to see all the oil deposited on the intake walls drawn into the engine and burned.

A really hard run should see the car driven a few minutes at moderate speeds and engine loads to shed the heat load that hard running creates -- which is important enough to mention it first -- and to give any oil time to pass from the intake to the engine and be burned.

Even if you do the above -- based on my experience doing the above -- the engine will smoke upon occasion. The culprit? The AOS just sucks in removing oil vapor from the crankcase fumes.

Sincerely,

Rockster.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

281 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Frimley111R said:
The car has been driven gently all its life.
Pull yourself together, sir. Like the peasants, she needs a damn' good thrashing. Now stand in the corner and contemplate your delinquency.

Johnfrancis

370 posts

176 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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They all do it, can be a bit embarrassing, but it is normal. Made worse by, for example,starting car, moving it off drive, switching off and leaving,the next time you start it there will be so much smoke you would think that engine was a two stroke!.

FrankCayman

2,132 posts

239 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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I would say you have nothing to worry about. My 987 2.7 Boxster would occasionally do the same thing right from when it was brand new. Nothing went wrong with it over the 90K 3 years I had it....

Martian O

2,734 posts

188 months

FactoryPilot

1,352 posts

242 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Most recent water cooled Porsche that I've had have all done the same. I wouldn't worry.