Would a FSH 944 remain reliable doing 20k a year?
Would a FSH 944 remain reliable doing 20k a year?
Author
Discussion

Ved

Original Poster:

3,949 posts

205 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
Specifically this little beauty at 4star cars.

http://www.4starclassics.com/porsche-944-S2-For-Sa...

I'm aware of the robust nature of these cars but has anyone done anything so stupid as to run one of these as their main car and put 20,000 miles + on them per year? I'd imagine it'd be a shock to its system but if that's mainly long motorway slogs, I wonder if this would strike a balance between fun and reliability.

Bit of a mad question, I'll admit that, but it is intriguing me.


David

mollytherocker

14,467 posts

239 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
I guess it depends on your definition if 'remain reliable'.

944s are solid and well built cars and if maintained well can be a great daily.

But they are now very old cars and things will fall off/wear out/break/dry up/rust etc.

MTR

williamp

20,435 posts

303 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
I used my Turbo as an everyday car about 10 years ago and it was great fun. But with every older car, you havd to consider what the fsh actually means: after 20+ years and many '000 miles, what parts are worn which are not yet discovered?? just the consumables, or other bits which might fail after continuous use

steveo3002

11,216 posts

204 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
id imagine its going to need the odd replacement part and bit of tinkering between services

should be reliable if you fix all the niggles that crop up and dont mind getting under the bonnet now n then

diver944

1,855 posts

306 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
I used to do 20k a year in our S2 along our countrys fine motorway network and the car never ever let me down. Now she's down to only 6k a year because I changed jobs. 20K a year will mean one major service and two oil changes but as long as you keep on top of replacing parts just before they wear out you should allow maybe £1.5k a year for trouble free motoring.

Pictures can hide a multitude of sins so give that one a good check over in the flesh, but it does look nice. Good luck

supersport

4,638 posts

257 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
At that kind of mileage I guess most of it would be motorway, this put almost no stress on the car and so it should be fine.

Ours was a daily, bought at 180K on the clock and used for 11K a year for two years, no problems.

In the past I have done 30K a year and the cars just didn't wear that much, just regular oil changes, you will find that tyres,brakes etc all last much longer.

Ved

Original Poster:

3,949 posts

205 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
Thanks for the info guys. May have to get some photos of my current car up in the classifieds smile

mez3

356 posts

249 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
I had a 1982 2.5 and done 145000 miles in it over 8 years. It cost me £3100 to buy the car 17 years ago and the majority of the cash i laid out on it was for upgrades like wheels, spoilers. seats, s/wheel, paintwork etc. None of it needed doing, i was just a 23 year old who loved spending money on his car to improve the looks.
I had weston Porsche in beckenham service it for me and it needed nothing in that time except routine maintenance which wasn't expensive.
XLW 613X was a great little car.

Edited by mez3 on Friday 24th August 19:28

blade7

11,311 posts

246 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
£8.5k for a 105k miles S2 ?, "I saw you coming" biggrin.

NJH

3,021 posts

239 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
If one stands back and takes the Porsche love glasses off, the idea of doing 20K miles PA commuting in a 20+ yr old and certainly not cheap to run sports car is just plain batty in every sense.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
I did 20k in a year in a 928 of similar vintage. Never missed a beat.

blade7

11,311 posts

246 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
drmark said:
I did 20k in a year in a 928 of similar vintage. Never missed a beat.
And put you in a Trabant biggrin.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
blade7 said:
And put you in a Trabant biggrin.
Tis all I can afford after paying for all the petrol for the 928.

pauljmcnulty

850 posts

269 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
Simple answer is no. Whether an S2 is worth that money is a different question, but it's the sort of cash that buys a low-miles concourse car that deserves to be kept in a museum unless you want to lose all it's value!

If you want to do double the average annual mileage of a new car, but in a 20-year-old Porsche, then you need to buy cheap, maintain it religiously, and be prepared to be late for work occasionally. You can do it, Fat Albert has proved how reliable they can be running motorway miles. But you want a scabby old car with faded paint, a worn interior, but recently-refreshed mechanicals if you want to run it in to the ground over those sort of miles each year.

Buy a diesel Focus or Golf for the motorway miles, with comforts like cruise and air-con, and save the running costs for a weekend toy 944.

tr7v8

7,623 posts

258 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
7 years ago when I bought my 944 it got pressed into becoming my daily driver doing 38K in 18 months. It was great, I called out the AA twice both to punctures. Otherwise I did the oil & filter changes every 6K & generally got an indie to do the 12Ks although I know have tools to do these myself. I really enjoyed driving it & some drives still stick in my mind A64 from Scarborough to Leeds from a customer. Customers either ignored it or it became a point of conversation, as an ice breaker. They are about as bombproof as a classic can be, although Class 1 business insurance was expensive. My 2.5 did around 33MPG, excluding all the improvements I did it was around 28pence per mile.
The irony of it was that it was more reliable doing mega miles than it is now only doing 2k max a year.

As for that S2 it is light on service detail. If it is OPC then the camchain & tensioners aren't part of the schedule & must have been done, otherwise it could need cams as well. When did it last have a clutch, have the fuel lines been done? All critical. Older cars need maintaining well beyond the service schedule.

Edited by tr7v8 on Friday 24th August 22:30

blade7

11,311 posts

246 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
tr7v8 said:
I called out the AA twice both to punctures.
Was it the butlers day off wink.

tr7v8

7,623 posts

258 months

Friday 24th August 2012
quotequote all
blade7 said:
tr7v8 said:
I called out the AA twice both to punctures.
Was it the butlers day off wink.
Nope the first was I'd upgraded to S2 brakes & kept the 15" spacesaver D'Oh! So when I had a puncturre I took the D90 off & fitted the 15" Spacesaver. Then found it jammed solid on the calliper banghead The AA relayed it to Bradford where I was going & a colleague ran me to a garage in the morning with the flat & got a new tyre fitted!
The second time I simply could not undo the locking wheel nut & in fact got home on a tin of tyre weld & then sacrificed a socket to get the bloody locking nut off. I then took the rest off & binned 'em!

blade7

11,311 posts

246 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
quotequote all
I think some cars dont have a spare, just a tin of tyreweld type stuff, not sure if using it scraps the tyre though.

NJH

3,021 posts

239 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
quotequote all
Not much help though if you nick the side wall and the side wall blows out. Happened to me years ago on a mini which luckily had a full size spare.

My commuting car is a Fiat Panda, 50 mpg 35 quid tax, is insured on a multi-car policy which costs the same for our 968+rangie+panda as it did for just the 968. Quite literally a zero care or worry car, needed a new front tyre the other day, £38 for a Continental. Brake pads are under a tenner etc. etc.

I did between 15k miles and 20k miles PA when I first got my S2 over a decade ago, it half made sense then when the cars where 1/2 the age, parts were 1/2 the price and easily available and my indie was charging £27 per hour labour. Still though the wear and tear I put on the car and subsequent costs down the line were huge. It also meant that it was very many years before I could afford to go on track with the car which is something I very much regret.


blade7

11,311 posts

246 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
quotequote all
NJH said:
Not much help though if you nick the side wall and the side wall blows out. Happened to me years ago on a mini which luckily had a full size spare.
Agreed which is why I haven't dumped the spare from mine.