Buying a Cayman R
Discussion
Thinking of buying a Cayman R (but had considered a Cayman S too)
Suggestions/comments from owners most welcome.
In particular, essential options to look for. Does the front get as badly chipped as a 911, and does it need paint protection film?
Tyre life, real life fuel consumption - road use only. Thanks in advance.
Suggestions/comments from owners most welcome.
In particular, essential options to look for. Does the front get as badly chipped as a 911, and does it need paint protection film?
Tyre life, real life fuel consumption - road use only. Thanks in advance.
Absolutely love my Cayman R. It's a great car in every way and for road use, it has more than enough power to satisfy all but the most extreme power hungry addicts!
I personally think that a Cayman R should be not fully loaded as this will negate what all the car is about , which can easily add all the weight back in that differenciates it from the (already great) Cayman S.
Here is a list of weight savings for the Cayman R over the S which you can mostly have a standard.
Aluminum Doors and Light Weight Door Panels - 15kgs
Composite Sport Bucket Seats - 12kgs
Air Conditioning - 12kgs
Other - 7kgs
Light Weight Drop Forged Wheels - 5kgs (unsprung)
Radio and Speakers - 3kgs (not sure about PCM or better sound systems)
Removal of Storage Compartments - 1kgs
Lightweight Battery - 10kgs
PCCB - 5kgs (unsprung) but have read that no weight saving as Cayman R brakes are light anyhow and that figure was based on heavier 911 brakes?
Most will say the essentials are -
Aircon - I would personally only have considered not having this on a bare spec car
CD-Radio - I think 99% of cars will at least have the CD-radio fitted (plays MP3s via CD if you're interested)
Mobile Phone prep - Better than having something strapped to your ear
Preferable options may include -
Sports exhaust - not a show stopper as std. exhaust also sounds great
Short shift if manual - not a show stopper as std. shift is still great
PDK if you have a dodgy left leg - I'm a manual man personally as you interact with the car so much more
Bucket seats - pain in the bum to get in and out of but once you are in, they hug you in like a hand in a glove (assuming you are average'ish size)
Sports Chrono - Some prefer the more aggressive throttle mapping, harder redline, silly pod stopwatch and decreased PSM intervention. I don't use mine much!
PCM - for those who like to have NAV built-in although useful IPOD/USB integration when this option also ticked. (No Ipod/USB controls on radio only as you only get a phono jack with AUX option)
Sound upgrades - Bose for PCM and Sound package plus for std. radio which gives better sound but really the car is so noisy that you don't hear the best from it.
Parking sensors - for those who cant park (I have these lol)
Xenons with dynamic cornering - I have std. halogens and they are fine in my opinion
Tyre pressure monitor - if you are lazy
Dont think I've missed anything else as the rest are certainly non essentials IMO.
All said and done the Cayman S is also a great car and one that can be purchased with more choices as so many more available on the used market. The only thing that puts me off a Cayman S is how high they sit aesthetically, with almost 4x4 gaps between the wheel arches, which I assume can be sorted after-market suspension but this will void any warranty.
Good luck in finding a good one.
I personally think that a Cayman R should be not fully loaded as this will negate what all the car is about , which can easily add all the weight back in that differenciates it from the (already great) Cayman S.
Here is a list of weight savings for the Cayman R over the S which you can mostly have a standard.
Aluminum Doors and Light Weight Door Panels - 15kgs
Composite Sport Bucket Seats - 12kgs
Air Conditioning - 12kgs
Other - 7kgs
Light Weight Drop Forged Wheels - 5kgs (unsprung)
Radio and Speakers - 3kgs (not sure about PCM or better sound systems)
Removal of Storage Compartments - 1kgs
Lightweight Battery - 10kgs
PCCB - 5kgs (unsprung) but have read that no weight saving as Cayman R brakes are light anyhow and that figure was based on heavier 911 brakes?
Most will say the essentials are -
Aircon - I would personally only have considered not having this on a bare spec car
CD-Radio - I think 99% of cars will at least have the CD-radio fitted (plays MP3s via CD if you're interested)
Mobile Phone prep - Better than having something strapped to your ear
Preferable options may include -
Sports exhaust - not a show stopper as std. exhaust also sounds great
Short shift if manual - not a show stopper as std. shift is still great
PDK if you have a dodgy left leg - I'm a manual man personally as you interact with the car so much more
Bucket seats - pain in the bum to get in and out of but once you are in, they hug you in like a hand in a glove (assuming you are average'ish size)
Sports Chrono - Some prefer the more aggressive throttle mapping, harder redline, silly pod stopwatch and decreased PSM intervention. I don't use mine much!
PCM - for those who like to have NAV built-in although useful IPOD/USB integration when this option also ticked. (No Ipod/USB controls on radio only as you only get a phono jack with AUX option)
Sound upgrades - Bose for PCM and Sound package plus for std. radio which gives better sound but really the car is so noisy that you don't hear the best from it.
Parking sensors - for those who cant park (I have these lol)
Xenons with dynamic cornering - I have std. halogens and they are fine in my opinion
Tyre pressure monitor - if you are lazy
Dont think I've missed anything else as the rest are certainly non essentials IMO.
All said and done the Cayman S is also a great car and one that can be purchased with more choices as so many more available on the used market. The only thing that puts me off a Cayman S is how high they sit aesthetically, with almost 4x4 gaps between the wheel arches, which I assume can be sorted after-market suspension but this will void any warranty.
Good luck in finding a good one.
sootyvrs said:
The only thing that puts me off a Cayman S is how high they sit aesthetically, with almost 4x4 gaps between the wheel arches,
PASM is an option on the Cayman S which lowers the stance and gives the option of standard setting for road use or sports setting for a much flatter and firmer ride which is ideal for the track. Some say the Cayman R is perfect for both with it's standard set-up but I prefer the options that PASM gives me. Either way, great cars.
Let us know your preferences as there are a few well optioned cars around both at OPC and other sources.
BubblesNW said:
PASM is an option on the Cayman S which lowers the stance and gives the option of standard setting for road use or sports setting for a much flatter and firmer ride which is ideal for the track. Some say the Cayman R is perfect for both with it's standard set-up but I prefer the options that PASM gives me.
Ah yes, the PASM is great for UK roads (not available on R) which does drop the height 10mm which helps a little with the look. The R bespoke passive suspention is 20mm lower and is a firm ride (although not crashy) and if comfort is a preference, the S maybe a better choice with softer (std. and PASM) suspension, easier access seats and better sound proofing.I would arrange some test drives in both cars... I loved both and would have been happy with either but the R just swayed it for it's exclusivity and focus.
Gen1 Cayman S is lower than the Gen 2, and with PASM is probably the lowest Cayman of the lot (that's purely an assumption on my part), and of course cheaper to buy, but down on power, and there are concerns about the engine on these (though I've had two and no problems with either).
Cayman R is a superb drive though - and a sublime engine. If you've got the money, stretch for it, but be aware that the new Cayman will be out and about fairly soon and may damage the residuals of the 987 based variant. Dunno if Cayman R will be as badly affected as it's such a rare car (I've seen one in the wild).
If it were my money, and it was just road use, I'd probably look to save a few quid and get a Gen.2 S, with PASM, 19s, climate, Bose, PCM and sports seats and steering wheel. Don't think you need much more, but clearly there are millions of options to consider from rear wiper right the way through to PCCBs...
Cayman R is a superb drive though - and a sublime engine. If you've got the money, stretch for it, but be aware that the new Cayman will be out and about fairly soon and may damage the residuals of the 987 based variant. Dunno if Cayman R will be as badly affected as it's such a rare car (I've seen one in the wild).
If it were my money, and it was just road use, I'd probably look to save a few quid and get a Gen.2 S, with PASM, 19s, climate, Bose, PCM and sports seats and steering wheel. Don't think you need much more, but clearly there are millions of options to consider from rear wiper right the way through to PCCBs...
you are prolly right re most things above.
except bixenons have PDLS lights AND LEDs for DRLs. The standard Halogens does not have LEDs for DRLs. Hence most drivers switch them off. Besides, the Bixenons have a different look to them (with 2 projectors, instead of 1)
For road use, a PASM equipped Cayman S is more than enough car for most people. However, if you do venture to the track, a CR is sublime and that's where you can make the most of the buckets/LSD/stiffer suspension and thicker anti-roll bar. It's just a more focused package. On paper it doesn't seem much but the way it works is just sublime.
Plus, it's rare...... way rarer than it should be in the UK. because unlike the spyder, it is not compromised by the roof. But, it also doesn't attract attention like the spyder. Depends on what you want really. as a road car with a few track days in mind, I think this is the best performance for the money. Beats the GT86/BRZ in every way except price....
except bixenons have PDLS lights AND LEDs for DRLs. The standard Halogens does not have LEDs for DRLs. Hence most drivers switch them off. Besides, the Bixenons have a different look to them (with 2 projectors, instead of 1)
For road use, a PASM equipped Cayman S is more than enough car for most people. However, if you do venture to the track, a CR is sublime and that's where you can make the most of the buckets/LSD/stiffer suspension and thicker anti-roll bar. It's just a more focused package. On paper it doesn't seem much but the way it works is just sublime.
Plus, it's rare...... way rarer than it should be in the UK. because unlike the spyder, it is not compromised by the roof. But, it also doesn't attract attention like the spyder. Depends on what you want really. as a road car with a few track days in mind, I think this is the best performance for the money. Beats the GT86/BRZ in every way except price....
SPiston said:
In particular, essential options to look for. Does the front get as badly chipped as a 911, and does it need paint protection film?
Tyre life, real life fuel consumption
Mine is a used Gen2 Cayman STyre life, real life fuel consumption
Tyre life - recently changed the original rears at 6,600 miles fronts still had 6mm on them though.
Fuel consumption - depends....quick general driving low 20's...going for it much less than 20...quiet run 25-30.
Things I don't care for...Sat Nav nice to look at but a TomTom is really all you need, Bose...its pants (why no remote control) just like their so called Hi-Fi the Clarion system I have in my old boiler blows it out the water.
Things I like...19" wheels...very nice (mine has standard suspension I don't mind the ride), Sports seats...look and feel great, Xenon lights...a must have simply brilliant, Parking sensors...must have.
The paint is no better than anything else if you drive it it'll get chips...heart breaking but it happens.
If you buy a Cayman R it'll be an awesome car but the S is excellent too, good value as well.
Good luck finding a car...
Edited by Klippie on Friday 31st August 15:16
Edited by Klippie on Friday 31st August 15:19
Edited by Klippie on Friday 31st August 15:24
Forgot to mention... mine has done 6k miles and has 5mm tread left in rear and around 6mm left front.
I get on average 24-26 mpg with mixed driving. On a motorway run at around 80 I can easily get over 30 mpg and when really pressing on it's around 20 mpg.
Servicing is every 2 years or 20k miles whichever comes first. Road tax is £270 p/a.
Insurance is also not too bad and was only £80 more than my previous BMW 130i.
I have a couple of stone chips on my car already but nothing serious. It's just luck of the draw so to speak as it's no different to any other car.
I get on average 24-26 mpg with mixed driving. On a motorway run at around 80 I can easily get over 30 mpg and when really pressing on it's around 20 mpg.
Servicing is every 2 years or 20k miles whichever comes first. Road tax is £270 p/a.
Insurance is also not too bad and was only £80 more than my previous BMW 130i.
I have a couple of stone chips on my car already but nothing serious. It's just luck of the draw so to speak as it's no different to any other car.
Agreed on the Bose - it's rubbish, but miles better than the standard system. Newer PCMs are miles better than the one I have (PCM 2.1), but still no better than a TomTom - but not having a SatNav in a high end car hurts you at trade-in time to a degree. It makes the dash look better too.
i would not be so hung up with pasm on a cayman s.i had a gen 1 cayman s with standard 18" wheels and standard suspension and it was fantastic!i test drove an R back to back with it and the ride was pretty close.also when i drove the R it was not too far removed from my standard cayman s - performance/handling on the road either.plus the looks dont remove it from the standard cayman much as well hence i went for the spyder which is my weekend toy and more of a looker.if it was me for an everyday car i would go for a cayman s gen 2 on standard suspension/18"rims and whatever other extras you might like although if you do a lot of night driving xenons are a must.you will find these a bit cheaper as well not having the pasm and 19" rims which many people tend to get so hung up about when looking for a cayman/boxster.
987.2C R is on different plane compared to a 987.1C S. The LSD and revised suspension transform it. My Gen1 in comparison is/was pretty shoddy.
i did not find this at all.i agree the r is a fantastic package but if you have a gen1/2 s on standard suspension/wheels i would not feel short changed.yes the ride is slightly firmer more to do with the bigger wheels and although the r was sharper out of turns(lsd) on fast long bends the gen1 car felt more planted.did you have pasm.also the overall performance was not a massive leap above the gen1 car although the engine is
i did not find this at all.i agree the r is a fantastic package but if you have a gen1/2 s on standard suspension/wheels i would not feel short changed.yes the ride is slightly firmer more to do with the bigger wheels and although the r was sharper out of turns(lsd) on fast long bends the gen1 car felt more planted.did you have pasm.also the overall performance was not a massive leap above the gen1 car although the engine is
I'd agree with that too - Gen 2 R is a lovely thing, sure, but on the road? Gen 1 S is still fabulous. The biggest difference would be the DFI engine. Ride/handling at road speeds I don't think would make a big difference at all.
All IMHO of course - as I said, for me a Gen.2 S on PASM would be where I'd go for road use, or maybe try a Gen 2 on 18s as a poster above suggested.
All IMHO of course - as I said, for me a Gen.2 S on PASM would be where I'd go for road use, or maybe try a Gen 2 on 18s as a poster above suggested.
I use mine mostly on the road --- have done three or four track days where it was utterly fab -- particularly in the wet on MPS2 tyres.
MPG ave's 25, tyres were all replaced at 8,500 miles (fronts wore more than the rears), and yes the R is very lovable liveable day to day GT3.
I have no stone chips on the front PU at 10,000 miles, but I leave plenty of room between myself and the car in front ?
The suspension is a lovely compromise, I have no trouble with the bucket seats, PDK with Sports Chrono was my choice --- and PCCB brakes which will hopefully last the life of the car.
If the new Boxster to the old one is what the new Cayman will be to the old, it will be fab.
But, it will be £70k for a well specced vehicle when a good R can be had for £40k ?
And the engine is not the issue it was with Gen 1's ...
MPG ave's 25, tyres were all replaced at 8,500 miles (fronts wore more than the rears), and yes the R is very lovable liveable day to day GT3.
I have no stone chips on the front PU at 10,000 miles, but I leave plenty of room between myself and the car in front ?
The suspension is a lovely compromise, I have no trouble with the bucket seats, PDK with Sports Chrono was my choice --- and PCCB brakes which will hopefully last the life of the car.
If the new Boxster to the old one is what the new Cayman will be to the old, it will be fab.
But, it will be £70k for a well specced vehicle when a good R can be had for £40k ?
And the engine is not the issue it was with Gen 1's ...
If the new Boxster to the old one is what the new Cayman will be to the old, it will be fab.
not in my book if the new cayman follows the 981 boxster it will have less power than a cayman R,have that ugly rear end and i am not so keen on a longer wheelbase which was not done for performance/handling but to meet usa cafe regs.
so i know chris harris is a driving god and all that and says the 981 boxster is fantastic but who is to say he is not on the porsche payroll?
the only way the new cayman will be fab is if porsche moves away from the ugly 991/981 rear end and gives it the power it deserves.
ChrisW. said:
I use mine mostly on the road --- have done three or four track days where it was utterly fab -- particularly in the wet on MPS2 tyres.
MPG ave's 25, tyres were all replaced at 8,500 miles (fronts wore more than the rears), and yes the R is very lovable liveable day to day GT3.
I have no stone chips on the front PU at 10,000 miles, but I leave plenty of room between myself and the car in front ?
The suspension is a lovely compromise, I have no trouble with the bucket seats, PDK with Sports Chrono was my choice --- and PCCB brakes which will hopefully last the life of the car.
If the new Boxster to the old one is what the new Cayman will be to the old, it will be fab.
But, it will be £70k for a well specced vehicle when a good R can be had for £40k ?
And the engine is not the issue it was with Gen 1's ...
Chris, do you have a white car?MPG ave's 25, tyres were all replaced at 8,500 miles (fronts wore more than the rears), and yes the R is very lovable liveable day to day GT3.
I have no stone chips on the front PU at 10,000 miles, but I leave plenty of room between myself and the car in front ?
The suspension is a lovely compromise, I have no trouble with the bucket seats, PDK with Sports Chrono was my choice --- and PCCB brakes which will hopefully last the life of the car.
If the new Boxster to the old one is what the new Cayman will be to the old, it will be fab.
But, it will be £70k for a well specced vehicle when a good R can be had for £40k ?
And the engine is not the issue it was with Gen 1's ...
The white paint is more resistant to chips I think than the darker metallic colours.
I would personally take the R. I had the same debate as you last year. I'm sure you've done all the maths and read the specifications so little point in my regurgitating paper facts.
I bought my CR new and mine is a weekend toy not a D/D so my choices were informed by that type of use. While I'd recommend my spec, I've never seen another vehicle for sale with all the same options. So you know where I'm coming from, my spec is PDK, Bi-Xenons, Auto-Dimming Mirrors, A/C, Sports Exhaust, Sport Chrono, Cruise Control, 64L tank, Park Assist, Universal Audio Interface, Park Assist Rear, CDR-30, cup holders.
I'd have the same spec again although I think I'd have a real debate about whether I wanted a sound system at all. The CDR-30 is serviceable but the one thing that always irritates me as a signifier of the quality of the head unit is that display. It's like a dot matrix printer compared to a high end inkjet when I compare it to what's in my Tiguan. I know it's not the point but when you spend that amount of money, you'd hope it would be decent. I won't go into the quality of the sound system, it's serviceable but I never understood why people complain about car sound systems and the differences between the standard and BOSE. You're in one of the worst acoustic environments to listen to music and it's a pointless spend getting high end components in if you ask me. I would not call BOSE high end by any stretch but you're never going to get an audiophile experience with all that glass and a flat 6 behind you! If you get the sports exhaust, you won't care about the stereo. With my time again, I'd probably just get the audio interface so I could plug an iPod into the speakers but I suspect amplification would be the issue so would settle for earphones and iPod.
Storage/Cup holders - Aluminium doors mean no door pockets, the centre column storage is enough for a few oddments and the little cubby underneath the radio is where I tend to lose anything I manage to fit in there. It's a really annoying position and with PDK, you have to take the car out of park to stand any chance of fishing anything out the space. I opted for the cup holders as there is nowhere else to put a drink. While I don't eat in the car, a bottle of water or something is good to have on hand and there simply isn't anywhere to put it unless you count the glovebox. I think having the head unit replaced by the storage unit is more appealing to me having lived with the car now for 8 months.
I think the PSE is a must have, the sound is amazing and putting the car in Sport or Sport+.... Just thinking about the sound makes me want to go out for a drive.
The auto dimming mirrors are exceptionally good and I got them because of the ride height of the car, every SUV going feels like it's on high beam if it's behind you and it's really hard to use your mirrors staring into bright light. It's a tick box on the options list that you can't really assess the value of unless you've experienced it. I live in London and while I garage the car outside of London, there are times when I have it in the city and you can't escape traffic behind you.
Ever since I spec'd xenons, I've never gone back to standard lights. I like driving at night on A/B roads when they're clear of traffic and the xenons on the Porsche are the best I've ever used.
Sports buckets seats. I love them. My passengers hate them (over distance). I've mastered the art of getting in and out of them without putting my weight on the bolsters and they're a superb fit. If you get it wrong getting in and you come down on one of the bolsters, you'll swear you broke your back. Seats do look amazing, the carbon fibre rear shell looks fantastic. Lumbar adjustment is the biggest complaint from passengers and it's probably due to the fact that they sit in a less alert position than the driver. Sparco make some lumbar supports which I'm thinking about getting for longer journeys - trips to Scotland for example.
PDK - Totally personal and I know it adds weight but I think it's brilliant. I liked both options to be honest and it was such a difficult decision. It shifts faster than I can, the paddles on the steering wheel are really good and fit comfortably. If I was going manual, I'd get the short shift. I have a 356 Outlaw if I want a manual, fully mechanical experience so I scratch the manual itch and remind myself how to use the 'extra' pedal with that.
Fuel tank - sure, smaller saves weight but doing long drives in the Scottish highlands, that extra 10l becomes handy.
Paint - I have mine in non-metallic black. I have protected the front end with Venture Shield half way up the nose and there are no problems. Other than the stone chip which occurred two inches further up the bonnet from a passing car but that's a different story.
Fuel consumption - Pushing hard, low 20's. Average over 3.8k miles is 28. On motorways with PDK and cruise, I get about 32 on average, maybe up to 34 if I drive like a geriatric.
Hope this is of some help and let us know what you decide.
Alex
I bought my CR new and mine is a weekend toy not a D/D so my choices were informed by that type of use. While I'd recommend my spec, I've never seen another vehicle for sale with all the same options. So you know where I'm coming from, my spec is PDK, Bi-Xenons, Auto-Dimming Mirrors, A/C, Sports Exhaust, Sport Chrono, Cruise Control, 64L tank, Park Assist, Universal Audio Interface, Park Assist Rear, CDR-30, cup holders.
I'd have the same spec again although I think I'd have a real debate about whether I wanted a sound system at all. The CDR-30 is serviceable but the one thing that always irritates me as a signifier of the quality of the head unit is that display. It's like a dot matrix printer compared to a high end inkjet when I compare it to what's in my Tiguan. I know it's not the point but when you spend that amount of money, you'd hope it would be decent. I won't go into the quality of the sound system, it's serviceable but I never understood why people complain about car sound systems and the differences between the standard and BOSE. You're in one of the worst acoustic environments to listen to music and it's a pointless spend getting high end components in if you ask me. I would not call BOSE high end by any stretch but you're never going to get an audiophile experience with all that glass and a flat 6 behind you! If you get the sports exhaust, you won't care about the stereo. With my time again, I'd probably just get the audio interface so I could plug an iPod into the speakers but I suspect amplification would be the issue so would settle for earphones and iPod.
Storage/Cup holders - Aluminium doors mean no door pockets, the centre column storage is enough for a few oddments and the little cubby underneath the radio is where I tend to lose anything I manage to fit in there. It's a really annoying position and with PDK, you have to take the car out of park to stand any chance of fishing anything out the space. I opted for the cup holders as there is nowhere else to put a drink. While I don't eat in the car, a bottle of water or something is good to have on hand and there simply isn't anywhere to put it unless you count the glovebox. I think having the head unit replaced by the storage unit is more appealing to me having lived with the car now for 8 months.
I think the PSE is a must have, the sound is amazing and putting the car in Sport or Sport+.... Just thinking about the sound makes me want to go out for a drive.
The auto dimming mirrors are exceptionally good and I got them because of the ride height of the car, every SUV going feels like it's on high beam if it's behind you and it's really hard to use your mirrors staring into bright light. It's a tick box on the options list that you can't really assess the value of unless you've experienced it. I live in London and while I garage the car outside of London, there are times when I have it in the city and you can't escape traffic behind you.
Ever since I spec'd xenons, I've never gone back to standard lights. I like driving at night on A/B roads when they're clear of traffic and the xenons on the Porsche are the best I've ever used.
Sports buckets seats. I love them. My passengers hate them (over distance). I've mastered the art of getting in and out of them without putting my weight on the bolsters and they're a superb fit. If you get it wrong getting in and you come down on one of the bolsters, you'll swear you broke your back. Seats do look amazing, the carbon fibre rear shell looks fantastic. Lumbar adjustment is the biggest complaint from passengers and it's probably due to the fact that they sit in a less alert position than the driver. Sparco make some lumbar supports which I'm thinking about getting for longer journeys - trips to Scotland for example.
PDK - Totally personal and I know it adds weight but I think it's brilliant. I liked both options to be honest and it was such a difficult decision. It shifts faster than I can, the paddles on the steering wheel are really good and fit comfortably. If I was going manual, I'd get the short shift. I have a 356 Outlaw if I want a manual, fully mechanical experience so I scratch the manual itch and remind myself how to use the 'extra' pedal with that.
Fuel tank - sure, smaller saves weight but doing long drives in the Scottish highlands, that extra 10l becomes handy.
Paint - I have mine in non-metallic black. I have protected the front end with Venture Shield half way up the nose and there are no problems. Other than the stone chip which occurred two inches further up the bonnet from a passing car but that's a different story.
Fuel consumption - Pushing hard, low 20's. Average over 3.8k miles is 28. On motorways with PDK and cruise, I get about 32 on average, maybe up to 34 if I drive like a geriatric.
Hope this is of some help and let us know what you decide.
Alex
sootyvrs said:
Mobile Phone prep - Better than having something strapped to your ear
PCM - for those who like to have NAV built-in although useful IPOD/USB integration when this option also ticked. (No Ipod/USB controls on radio only as you only get a phono jack with AUX option)
Sound upgrades - Bose for PCM and Sound package plus for std. radio which gives better sound but really the car is so noisy that you don't hear the best from it.
Xenons with dynamic cornering - I have std. halogens and they are fine in my opinion
Tyre pressure monitor - if you are lazy
Dont think I've missed anything else as the rest are certainly non essentials IMO.
All said and done the Cayman S is also a great car and one that can be purchased with more choices as so many more available on the used market.
Good luck in finding a good one.
Thanks very much.PCM - for those who like to have NAV built-in although useful IPOD/USB integration when this option also ticked. (No Ipod/USB controls on radio only as you only get a phono jack with AUX option)
Sound upgrades - Bose for PCM and Sound package plus for std. radio which gives better sound but really the car is so noisy that you don't hear the best from it.
Xenons with dynamic cornering - I have std. halogens and they are fine in my opinion
Tyre pressure monitor - if you are lazy
Dont think I've missed anything else as the rest are certainly non essentials IMO.
All said and done the Cayman S is also a great car and one that can be purchased with more choices as so many more available on the used market.
Good luck in finding a good one.
If I get a car without mobile phone prep/PCM thingy (saves some money & I am on a budget) I was planning to just use an Iphone or a larger screen mobile phone as a Sat-Nav & phone. Anyone done that? I suppose if I do not hardwire, that would not affect the warranty.
Can Xenon's/TPM be retro-fitted?
Thanks
sootyvrs said:
--- the S maybe a better choice with softer (std. and PASM) suspension, easier access seats and better sound proofing.
I would arrange some test drives in both cars... I loved both and would have been happy with either but the R just swayed it for it's exclusivity and focus.
Does the R have less rust protection than the S - again in an effort to save weight.I would arrange some test drives in both cars... I loved both and would have been happy with either but the R just swayed it for it's exclusivity and focus.
Depreciation is always an issue. The R should fare much better, I expect till a new Cayman R come around - but that would likely be £70k+
Actus Reus said:
Cayman R is a superb drive though - and a sublime engine. If you've got the money, stretch for it, but be aware that the new Cayman will be out and about fairly soon and may damage the residuals of the 987 based variant. Dunno if Cayman R will be as badly affected as it's such a rare car (I've seen one in the wild).
If it were my money, and it was just road use, I'd probably look to save a few quid and get a Gen.2 S, with PASM, 19s, climate, Bose, PCM and sports seats and steering wheel. Don't think you need much more, but clearly there are millions of options to consider from rear wiper right the way through to PCCBs...
Valid thoughts - I suppose the new Cayman will affect the late Cayman S's more than the rest, so could wait a while.If it were my money, and it was just road use, I'd probably look to save a few quid and get a Gen.2 S, with PASM, 19s, climate, Bose, PCM and sports seats and steering wheel. Don't think you need much more, but clearly there are millions of options to consider from rear wiper right the way through to PCCBs...
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