993 - 4s or turbo? Advice please
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I'm sure plenty have people have already asked the question and plenty will ask the question after me. I'm looking at either a turbo or a 4s, preferably later, circa 50-60 thousand mile cars with a view to keeping it for a long time. Does anybody have any recommendations? I've done a bit of work on pricing etc and appreciate the turbo will be more for a similar mileage car but are these likely to hold or in fact appreciate in value better. I've given up on the property market before even starting and thought my money would be better placed in something I can enjoy and may one day be a classic and if not then I've had a laugh! Thanks in advance.
Tim
Tim
Speaking as a 996turbo owner I would have to say 993turbo. An iconic car that I still lust after, & would possibly have bought had it not been more expensive for a car that was several years older.
Finally practicalities won the day & I am happy with my choice (used it for a while as a daily driver, sometimes on short runs , which I was led to believe the air-cooled 993 wouldn't appreciate) but as an object to admire every time you walk by it & as a future classic, better to pay up for the turbo in preference to a 993 with wide arches (although it also looks very good I have to admit, as, imitating a turbo it should do)
Finally practicalities won the day & I am happy with my choice (used it for a while as a daily driver, sometimes on short runs , which I was led to believe the air-cooled 993 wouldn't appreciate) but as an object to admire every time you walk by it & as a future classic, better to pay up for the turbo in preference to a 993 with wide arches (although it also looks very good I have to admit, as, imitating a turbo it should do)
The turbo does rob the car of quite a bit of purity, but traded off against that is huge pace of course.
If I was buying now, I'd get the best C2S I could find and keep it.
Manual C2S don't come up for sale that often in a decent colour and when they do, they sell quickly.
Pick of the range IMHO.
If I was buying now, I'd get the best C2S I could find and keep it.
Manual C2S don't come up for sale that often in a decent colour and when they do, they sell quickly.
Pick of the range IMHO.
If driver satisfaction is a priority then get a narrow bodied car ... feel, feedback, adjustability, an endlessley talkative chassis, nimbleness, accuracy, the bobbing nose and inertia free front end etc..
If none of that bothers you so much though and you want more of an inert GT, straight line speed car then the turbo it is. Iconic and one of the most beautiful cars of the last 3 decades but don't imagine that its the consummate 911 or 993 experience because as stock it isn't. They can of course be modded to be a much more stimulating drive and even turned into 2wd etc.
But avoid the C4S IMO as its neither fish nor foul. All the extra weight (sprung and unsprung) and dynamic greyness of the turbo yet none of its power to make up.
If none of that bothers you so much though and you want more of an inert GT, straight line speed car then the turbo it is. Iconic and one of the most beautiful cars of the last 3 decades but don't imagine that its the consummate 911 or 993 experience because as stock it isn't. They can of course be modded to be a much more stimulating drive and even turned into 2wd etc.
But avoid the C4S IMO as its neither fish nor foul. All the extra weight (sprung and unsprung) and dynamic greyness of the turbo yet none of its power to make up.
Edited by jackal on Wednesday 24th October 00:59
carsarecool said:
The turbo does rob the car of quite a bit of purity, but traded off against that is huge pace of course.
If I was buying now, I'd get the best C2S I could find and keep it.
Manual C2S don't come up for sale that often in a decent colour and when they do, they sell quickly.
Pick of the range IMHO.
+10!!If I was buying now, I'd get the best C2S I could find and keep it.
Manual C2S don't come up for sale that often in a decent colour and when they do, they sell quickly.
Pick of the range IMHO.
If you're not a performance junkie, the wide bodied car looks fabulous without the rear spoiler.
Both can be made to drive nicely but you'd lose the originality and it would kick the future value right in the nuts IMO.
I'd put my money in the turbo then make it faster and handle better and not worry about how much it will be worth .............. Oh wait I did
Both can be made to drive nicely but you'd lose the originality and it would kick the future value right in the nuts IMO.
I'd put my money in the turbo then make it faster and handle better and not worry about how much it will be worth .............. Oh wait I did
I've been lucky enough to own both models back to back, the C4S was a great car, the Turbo (which I sold this summer to fund a GT2) was in a different league though in performance. I used to describe one as a sports car the other as a super car.
Running costs for me were similar, if I had to choose between them again I would go for the turbo without any hesitation.
Running costs for me were similar, if I had to choose between them again I would go for the turbo without any hesitation.
Ive been salivating just a bit over this 993TT in a local dealers - http://www.kennydunn.co.uk/used-cars/porsche-911-e...
Would be an awesome occasional drive / garage queen / motoring investment. Ok not an investment as such but if your PH inclined will hold its value better than any other £50k car that I can think of!
Unfortunately I dont have £50k!
Would be an awesome occasional drive / garage queen / motoring investment. Ok not an investment as such but if your PH inclined will hold its value better than any other £50k car that I can think of!
Unfortunately I dont have £50k!
I moved from a 993C4 to a turbo and have absolutely no regrets. The turbo is just such an iconic car. OK, so you can make a C4S look like a turbo by specifying a big wing on the back, but it'll never be the real deal. Yes, the turbo feels heavier, more planted but when you light the turbos, its grin factor 10. Of course its not a pure drivers car in the track day sense, but if you want that then why not buy a 996GT3 and save £20k? My one has certainly cost me more in the first couple of years of ownership, but quite a bit of that has been sorting stuff that would be done at some stage anyway (shocks, and various other refreshes). In the end buy what you really want if you can afford it - don't end up wishing you had spent a bit more (OK a lot more) on the turbo and hence always regret buying the C4S.
Edited by stewart rix on Wednesday 24th October 08:35
the other me said:
I'm with C8LNJ, think I would be planning a trip up North immediately if I had 50k burning a hole in the jeans. . . that is just so 
my favorite colour for that car, possibly influenced by an old "Performance Car of the Year" video that I must have watched a hundred times 
+1, especially if you are only choosing between the turbo and the C4S. Can't see the interior but that is a cracking car. I had an arena red narrow body 993 C2 and it was the nicest colour I've ever had on any car, really suits the shape (I ended up painting the calipers black because the difference in reds grated on me for some reason, and then it was perfect...). my favorite colour for that car, possibly influenced by an old "Performance Car of the Year" video that I must have watched a hundred times Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff