Swisvax paint sealant
Swisvax paint sealant
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Ullers

Original Poster:

15 posts

168 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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Any advice on whether this is worth the £500 quoted by my OPC would be much appreciated. I'm undecided, but thinking the 6 monthly reapplication FOC thereafter is quite appealing. I'm collecting my new Boxster next Saturday and need to make decision on Monday.

Bennachie

1,091 posts

181 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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If it were me , I should keep my hand in my pocket. Buy a top quality sealant (possibly even Swissvax) and apply it myself every six months.

More effort on my part but the best part of £460 in my back pocket to spend on fuel whilst driving my Porsche the way it should be driven.

PS.

It will (does) still look stunning.

However, we are all different - thankfully.

Scott Parker

798 posts

251 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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I got it for free and can say i hate the stuff. took me ages to get off. I have now gone back to what i know best and use autoglym polish.

I suppose it depends on how good you are at cleaning your car. The swisvax is just a wax finish, i spent about £200 on dojo juice bits for my last car and got the same results. I ended up going back to autoglym with that car. The problem is everytime you wash it with the shampoo it leaves the paint with watermarks that you just cant budge, once leathered the paint and especially windows feel rough and not smooth (which is the opposite of what a "super wax" should feel like) Maybe im just a complete nob at washing cars but i will never go back to wax and will stick with plain old polish. My car is 2 months old and i'm on about my 6th polish and still getting water marks off of the paint. I will probably just see the winter through and get the car detailed in the spring ( as long as they dont put that st wax back on)

Edited by Scott Parker on Saturday 3rd November 20:30

petop

2,408 posts

196 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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I saw this as an option listing on a 991 in Guildford OPC today, and i thought the same id rather spend it on petrol. The whole extra options on this particular car came to over £15k which looking on some individual ones, its definitely each to their own!

DEANO87

832 posts

202 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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You would be better off spending the cash with a proper Detailer on a new car protection detail.

_Leg_

2,827 posts

241 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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Clean it, polish it, xpel film it

nickfrog

25,396 posts

247 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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£460 ? The last step product has next to zero influence on the result. It's all about the prep. A freshly corrected paintwork with zero swirl will always look 10 times better without anything on it than a £2,000 wax on a swirl infested car. 10g worth of sealant cost next to nothing and take 10mn to apply and buff off.

I hope they simply subcontract a good local detailer (who happens to be a Swiss wax stockist, which in no way guarantees the quality of the result) BUT this means that they only pay him £200 or so (possibly less?), which means that he will at best only give it a 1-stage polish, or possibly simply glaze it.

nickfrog

25,396 posts

247 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Scott Parker said:
I suppose it depends on how good you are at cleaning your car. The swisvax is just a wax finish, i spent about £200 on dojo juice bits for my last car and got the same results. I ended up going back to autoglym with that car. The problem is everytime you wash it with the shampoo it leaves the paint with watermarks that you just cant budge, once leathered the paint and especially windows feel rough and not smooth (which is the opposite of what a "super wax" should feel like) Maybe im just a complete nob at washing cars but i will never go back to wax and will stick with plain old polish. My car is 2 months old and i'm on about my 6th polish and still getting water marks off of the paint. I will probably just see the winter through and get the car detailed in the spring ( as long as they dont put that st wax back on)
Scott a polish is very different to a wax. The polish will cut the clear coat to remove hazing/swirling and the wax (or sealant) is the next and final protection step. If you use AG Super Resin Polish, it's a AIO (All In One), which is actually brilliant for the money. It also glazes the remaining swirls (like a filler) to hide them.

You shouldn't get water marks if you use a dedicated quality drying towel, like this one http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/pb-luxury-... You can also use AG Extra Gloss Protection as a sealant AFTER SRP. It will help dispel water and minimise the amount of work with the towel.

HTH.

jackliebling

509 posts

203 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Swiss wax products are the best in the business. I had my car done by Porsche West London and they charged £400 for it.

In hindsight, I would still use the Swiss wax stuff but would do it myself, claying it first and then using the cleaner and wax. Spend the £400 on the products.

The products are expensive but are fantastic quality and last a long time.

jackliebling

509 posts

203 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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By the way, claying the car will remove watermarks in a jiffy...

I have had no problems with watermarks, with Swiiswax the car is so easy to clean!

Just wash it with the soap stuff and use a super fluffy microfiber to dry off. 15 mins max...

sportsandclassic

3,774 posts

248 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Hi, does that price include the paint correction work and then the wax application or is it just the wax...?

A detail job with a high end wax application will cost anywhere from £350 upwards depending on the amount of prep work and quality of products. The Swissvax is very good and I have had all my Porsche's done at some point or another.

Have also had very good results with Autosmart hi-def wax on Gt3.

Personally I would not bother and get it done by a professional detailing outfit.

Mike

Gio G

2,995 posts

239 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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For £500, I would take it to someone like Kelly @ KDS, who would do a much better job.

Zyp

16,105 posts

219 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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I've used Swissvax on all my cars over the last 10 years.

All of them metallic and had great results.
However, two of my current cars are solid paint finish and using Swissvax seems to be no better than using something like Werkstad acrylic, which is a fair bit cheaper and easier to use.

I've just started using Autoglym on one of them and am very happy with the result (although not the residue that you don't get with Swissvax).

rubystone

11,254 posts

289 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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DEANO87 said:
You would be better off spending the cash with a proper Detailer on a new car protection detail.
Totally spot-on. A-Glaze is one option. These are not waxes we are talking about, BTW

DS240

5,738 posts

248 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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I've got into detailing over the last couple of years, building up and learning as I go. I went straight into looking at all things swissvax, but it is expensive to keep on top of product renewal.

That opened my eyes to realising that doing a good job on the car can involve using a mix and match of products. Even professionals don't always go for the big name, expensive products as they may not do the best job.

I decided to put my money into doing the job myself rather than always sending the car off to the detailer. If I had a real quality detailer near me, that might be different. But now I know exactly what is going on the car, though it is obviously harder work and days are lost to cleaning the car!

I don't let my OPC wash or hoover my car after a service, let alone do a detail.

That sort of money will buy a fair bit of kit that will last you quite a long time.

Far Cough

2,482 posts

198 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Save you money as it will be a lottery as to how the finished result comes out and whether you get the full paint correction prior to the application of the wax. Even if you plump for it you will end up having to top it off every 6 months or so depending on where your car is kept , how many times you wash it etc etc.

You can also forget all the expensive big name stuff with funky advertising and the premium look to go with the premium price. All you need here :

COLINITE 476s WAX http://www.shipshapenorfolkltd.co.uk/ect/proddetai...

Having used this stuff after reading all the hype it gets by those in the know. Seriously impressed with the results and the protection it gives. The car looks cleaner after just a simple jet wash.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

295 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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jackliebling said:
Swiss wax products are the best in the business.
Only in your opinion :-)

Also depends what colour the car is to what I use.

Zymol on dark colours
Werkstat on light colours.

Both the best in the business :-)

jayplay28

262 posts

221 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Their waxes only give a couple of months of durability so they do need topping up on regular basis (ideally every 2-3 months), alternatively you could have a ceramic (Gtechniq C1) or glass coating (22PLE) applied that will give better protection against the elements and will last up to 2 years and is very easy to maintain.

In most dealerships the valeters are given minimal time and little training in how to prepare and protect your new pride and joy so best option would be to get a professional detailer to do the work as they will spend far more time preparing your car and will ensure the finish is perfect before applying the protection.




tjlees

1,382 posts

267 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Far better to get a detailer to properly correct and apply the wax. Mine spent two days removing the swirls etc and applying Swissvax for £500.

See previous thread and choose nearest do some research - they all come recommended and are likely to do a far better job than any opc. http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t...

Btw once you have had it detailed, get your products from a decent place such as polish bliss, and don't let your local opc clean it after a service - they will more than likely put swirls back on!

static2010

430 posts

168 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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rubystone said:
DEANO87 said:
You would be better off spending the cash with a proper Detailer on a new car protection detail.
Totally spot-on. A-Glaze is one option. These are not waxes we are talking about, BTW
+1 Or spend a bit of time & effort with Meg's 3 step pack... It might surprise you.