Your vote: 991 Sports Exhaust yes or no?
Your vote: 991 Sports Exhaust yes or no?
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ernestoteles

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252 posts

223 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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So... brand new 991 C2S. I'm loving it - it's a terrific drive, and a big step up from the 997.1 I knew of old. I also think Porsche have done a nice job on the "emotion" bit: the engine and exhaust sound in the cabin under hard acceleration in Sport+ mode is great. The question then is: what about having a Porsche Sports Exhaust fitted by my OPC to turn up the emotions dial one notch higher?

Is this a great way to spend £2,500?

Or is this totally naff?

I started off resolutely parked in the "it's naff" camp, but am wondering if I'm being too much of a purist about this.
Your votes please.


Old Trout

1,705 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Essential

TryHarder

899 posts

215 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Me personally if its a Cab then yes no question because roof down it sounds amazing,

If its not a cab then I don't think so, if you want to drive around with the windows down all the time then maybe it does crackle on the over run, but really your £2,500.00 is entertaining or annoying bystanders if you have the windows up.

Windows closed the standard exhaust in 'Sport' is amazing the in built sound symposia really does work.

But as always, borrow one from the OPC and decide for yourself, but for me windows up, no wind noise just that lovely, lovely sound with the standard setup.

TryHarder

899 posts

215 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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P.S. you shouldn't be paying any more than £2k from the OPC that sold you the car, trust me ;-)

Scott Parker

798 posts

250 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Yes because you get nice crackles. I would also suggest stuffing a sock in that silly sound symposer, the whine makes your ears bleed

TryHarder

899 posts

215 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Scott Parker said:
Yes because you get nice crackles. I would also suggest stuffing a sock in that silly sound symposer, the whine makes your ears bleed
you pays your money and takes your choice, everyone's different, but you could spend your money on the club aero kit, because Mr Parker your car is just simply stunning.

Scott Parker

798 posts

250 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Thanks smile

BnB

1,059 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Scott Parker said:
Yes because you get nice crackles. I would also suggest stuffing a sock in that silly sound symposer, the whine makes your ears bleed
Agreed. i use a bit of foam laid over the aperture. Much more pleasant and can hear the actual exhaust better.

OP: I have PSE (and a cab) and it sounds fantastic on a back road, but it drones in the cabin on the motorway, so I switch it off then.

Manks

28,176 posts

251 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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ernestoteles said:
So... brand new 991 C2S. I'm loving it - it's a terrific drive, and a big step up from the 997.1 I knew of old. I also think Porsche have done a nice job on the "emotion" bit: the engine and exhaust sound in the cabin under hard acceleration in Sport+ mode is great. The question then is: what about having a Porsche Sports Exhaust fitted by my OPC to turn up the emotions dial one notch higher?

Is this a great way to spend £2,500?

Or is this totally naff?

I started off resolutely parked in the "it's naff" camp, but am wondering if I'm being too much of a purist about this.
Your votes please.
I've got PSE but if I didn't I wouldn't pay £2500 to retro-fit it. The standard zorst sounds good, just in a different way.

Blue62

10,587 posts

181 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Manks said:
I've got PSE but if I didn't I wouldn't pay £2500 to retro-fit it. The standard zorst sounds good, just in a different way.
I have PSE and agree with Manks, glad I have it but wouldn't fork out after market.

Scott Parker

798 posts

250 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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BnB said:
Agreed. i use a bit of foam laid over the aperture. Much more pleasant and can hear the actual exhaust better.

OP: I have PSE (and a cab) and it sounds fantastic on a back road, but it drones in the cabin on the motorway, so I switch it off then.
Yes i tend to turn it off on longish motorway journeys

I didn't really use a sock wink i stuffed about 2 inches of high density gap filling foam down the hole. Also with the coupe you get some more sound deadening material behing the panel but the panel also has a prong to push the sound deadening slab away to leave the hole uncovered and let the sound through. I also snapped this off to keep the hole covered as much as possible. I love exhaust noise but that whiney fake intake drone does my head in. Are you getting the impression that i dont like the sound symposer biggrin

Edited by Scott Parker on Thursday 8th November 20:57


Edited by Scott Parker on Thursday 8th November 20:58

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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No.

It's a personal choice, and will appeal to some people - but I didn't like it.

It sounds too contrived (which it is) and unnatural. IMO the standard cars (991 and 991S) actually sound nicer without it.

Of all the 911s I've ever driven, the 2.2S and 997GT3 sounded the best, and the 996 PSE was the best optional sports exhaust.

I'd spend that money elsewhere.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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>>but am wondering if I'm being too much of a purist about this.

Buy what you want and enjoy it and screw the opinions of others, it's your money, your car and ultimately your ears which will make the call on whether it's worth it or not.

I'd go with PSE although £2,500 is about £700 over what my OPC do a retrofit for.

Trev450

6,742 posts

201 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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I have a PSE on my Cayman S and its probably the one option I would not want to be without.

barchetta_boy

2,513 posts

261 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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There is definitely a modern phenomenon of contrived exhaust sound... I haven't heard a 991 sports exhaust but hopefully it sounds better than the 997. It's odd because the 996 sounded really good with PSE.

Cars that get it right: Merc 63, SLS, any TVR, V10 M5

Cars that get it wrong: AMV8, new M5, 458. There's a synthetic quality to the sound which jars. I was particularly disappointed with the Aston Martin, even after removing fuse 22.

[AJ]

3,079 posts

227 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Personally, if you want to really extract emotion out of the car, I'd spend the money on making the car go faster and handle better. The standard exhaust sounds nice enough above 5k rpm!

Book yourself a track day and tuition with an instructor who knows 911s (someone like Shean Edwards, Marcus or Mike Wilds). It will be the best 'upgrade' money you could spend on your car and cost far less than PSE.

Just my 2p.

SFO

5,181 posts

212 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Geneve said:
It sounds too contrived (which it is) and unnatural. IMO the standard cars (991 and 991S) actually sound nicer without it.

+1

BnB

1,059 posts

204 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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SFO said:
Geneve said:
It sounds too contrived (which it is) and unnatural. IMO the standard cars (991 and 991S) actually sound nicer without it.

+1
I think you're confusing the (artificial sounding) Symposer, which is standard fitment, with the crackling, burbling chorus of the optional PSE

MrCooke

796 posts

224 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Yes. The local OPC boys drive past my office frequently during the day and the sports equipped cars sound spectacular. Better than any other water cooler including GTxs

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

256 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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I've PSE and wouldn't be without it smile