997 window likes going down
997 window likes going down
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Callughan

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6,313 posts

222 months

Sunday 25th November 2012
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Hi Chaps,

On my 997 C4S, A few times when I have locked the car and come back the windows are open. Obviously this is not ideal in the rain or that I park on the street.

I can't find the thread but is this known fault? Has it got something to do with a relay switch....

Car has P warranty so will take in next week if not simple fix.

Thanks

Rockster

1,515 posts

190 months

Sunday 25th November 2012
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Callughan said:
Hi Chaps,

On my 997 C4S, A few times when I have locked the car and come back the windows are open. Obviously this is not ideal in the rain or that I park on the street.

I can't find the thread but is this known fault? Has it got something to do with a relay switch....

Car has P warranty so will take in next week if not simple fix.

Thanks
A window going down on its own does not read like a switch problem by itself.

The couple of times I've observed abnormal window behavior: the window going down when opening the door then going up again once open; the window not going down when pulling on either the inner or outer door handle; the window not dropping the full measure when opening the door or dropping very slowly; have all been traced to a bad door lock assembly; a bad door handle switch; a bad door latch switch; and window regulators.

A window going down without any interaction suggests a possible water leak that is letting water in the door. This at first results in inexplicable electrical gremlins with the door lock and window but if ignored the gremlins start appearing at more distant locations.

Give the doors a shake listening for any water sloshing. Feel along the bottom of the doors and the carpets on the floor for any dampness.

With rain body drains get blocked from the build up of leaf/plant trash and water can overflow into the cabin.

The other thing you can do will probably have to do is take the car to a shop that can connect a PIWIS2 diagnostics computer and give the security/door/window systems a checkout.

It may be a switch or maybe a combination of switch and assembly but unless you are a good guesser you can replace a lot of expensive hardware for naught.

NorthDave

2,540 posts

262 months

Sunday 25th November 2012
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Are you sure it isn't the key in your pocket. I keep mine separate now as I got fed up coming out to find the boot open or the windows down.

It's ridiculous really - insurance make you fit a tracker and it spends half its life unlocked due to a design flaw with the key!

djohnson

3,685 posts

253 months

Sunday 25th November 2012
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I strongly suggest it'll be the key in your pocket. A tiny flaw which is a massive irritation on my 997.

Callughan

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6,313 posts

222 months

Sunday 25th November 2012
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Will keep an eye on key, and stick on Pwis to be double sure. All the seals etc..are are A1. Appreciate the advicesmile

gl20

1,199 posts

179 months

Sunday 25th November 2012
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If you suspect it is keys I'm the pocket syndrome (used to be a problem for me too) your OPC will desensitise them. Worked for me..

Gary11

4,163 posts

231 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Try resetting the windows too its easy to do!
G

Rrroro

452 posts

185 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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This is all news to me - I never even knew I could lower the windows with the key remote! How is this done? Do I double click the button or something?

porkyspecialist

203 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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It would normally be the drivers door lock that is at fault, not that easy to change on a 997 mind.

SimC

154 posts

187 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Rrroro said:
This is all news to me - I never even knew I could lower the windows with the key remote! How is this done? Do I double click the button or something?
Push the open button and keep held and the windows should drop. Hold the closed button continually and they should rise again.

Rrroro

452 posts

185 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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SimC said:
Push the open button and keep held and the windows should drop. Hold the closed button continually and they should rise again.
Cheers! I'll give that a go tomorrow lol smile

djohnson

3,685 posts

253 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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gl20 said:
If you suspect it is keys I'm the pocket syndrome (used to be a problem for me too) your OPC will desensitise them. Worked for me..
Made mine a bit better but didn't solve it.

HPandSpam

13 posts

179 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Ah, Sorry, misread the title.
Thought it said widow.

BalhamLotus

282 posts

249 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Just had the neighbours round because mine had done exactly the same thing.

Been working from home today with key in my pocket, so pleased to find this thread.

Stupid design. Cayman was forever unlocking itself, but this windows trick is a new one on me. Now it advertises it's unlocked...... Magic

mollytherocker

14,466 posts

239 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Someone needs to invent a mechanical system employing some sort of cog mechanism.

It could be operated by a lever that you turn.

It would be elegant, simple and efficient.

Callughan

Original Poster:

6,313 posts

222 months

Saturday 1st December 2012
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Went OPC, apparently all is as it should be.. Desensitising for my key only affective for front lid. Technician said there was a flat key version of my key that may help but in all honesty just be careful with key when walking away.

Thanks for all the suggestions and advice.

Burnham

3,668 posts

289 months

Saturday 1st December 2012
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Had this happen a few times with my 997. Not such an issue in the summer, but a real pain when it was raining!

Triple7

4,015 posts

267 months

Sunday 2nd December 2012
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Happens with the small terms on my Cabrio to. frown

cd1957

648 posts

206 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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You can code the comfort settings to the "OFF" position,this will turn of the window feature completely.

Chris

Callughan

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6,313 posts

222 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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cd1957 said:
You can code the comfort settings to the "OFF" position,this will turn of the window feature completely.

Chris
According to my local OPC no(not much faith in them during their transistional phase), this would be great as it's very annoying. If it is a design fault and the new key is the solution then surely the warranty should cover it?