porsche 997 pcm upgrade one after market one to buy
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Useful tip if you want to retain OEM look of centre console whilst having a double DIN after market stereo.
Porsche actually produce a double din centre console adapter for Japanese 997's where they are not supplied with PCM.
This way you can be sure of good fitment and colour match with rest of centre console.
Porsche actually produce a double din centre console adapter for Japanese 997's where they are not supplied with PCM.
This way you can be sure of good fitment and colour match with rest of centre console.
bryce86 said:
^ link to this?
Have a look here. Lots of good car Audio specialists can fit it for youhttp://www.dension.com/car-multimedia-adapter-ipod...
having played with the mobridge (Dension interface is almost identical)
I consider it a fudge at best, its probably no worse than using CDs in the PCM, but compared to what you are used to with an IPhone its pretty pants.
I'm leaning towards the Blaupunkt New York 800 as it has the feature I want but isn't as flashy wizzbang as the Jap stuff so looks pretty OEM
I consider it a fudge at best, its probably no worse than using CDs in the PCM, but compared to what you are used to with an IPhone its pretty pants.
I'm leaning towards the Blaupunkt New York 800 as it has the feature I want but isn't as flashy wizzbang as the Jap stuff so looks pretty OEM
markiii said:
having played with the mobridge (Dension interface is almost identical)
I consider it a fudge at best, its probably no worse than using CDs in the PCM, but compared to what you are used to with an IPhone its pretty pants.
I'm leaning towards the Blaupunkt New York 800 as it has the feature I want but isn't as flashy wizzbang as the Jap stuff so looks pretty OEM
A fair point but replacing the whole unit still a big deal IMO. If I commuted in mine or it was used as a genuine DD then I wouldn't disagree but for a weekend toy with occasional road trips the Dension works well enough and sounds good.I consider it a fudge at best, its probably no worse than using CDs in the PCM, but compared to what you are used to with an IPhone its pretty pants.
I'm leaning towards the Blaupunkt New York 800 as it has the feature I want but isn't as flashy wizzbang as the Jap stuff so looks pretty OEM
Suspect the Blaupunkt would have better nav too though if thats important
The imain issue is the fibre optic loop which sends the audio signals to the amplifier in a MOST equipped car. You can get a MOST adapter such as the NAV-TV MOST-HUR: http://www.navtv.com/product/217/most-hur-997.html , or bypass the amp completely and connect directly to the speakers with one of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Autoleads-PC2-95-4-Audio-H... . Or change the amp, of course.
Have just removed the PCM from my 05 C2S and replaced it with a Zenec unit which I used before in a 996. The 'modern' touch screen nav, inbuilt ipod, blue tooth etc etc systems are way ahead of the PCM 2.1 which is frankly crude in the extreme. Basically the autoleads lead has the connector to replace the Bose amp and connect directly to all the speakers in the car. The front and rear tweeters are fed directly by the replacement head unit base and center dash speakers are fed by an after market amp, all the wiring is in the loom, very straight forward. You have to keep the old PCM to revert the car to 19th century in order to sell it it would seem !
alexisn said:
Have just removed the PCM from my 05 C2S and replaced it with a Zenec unit which I used before in a 996. The 'modern' touch screen nav, inbuilt ipod, blue tooth etc etc systems are way ahead of the PCM 2.1 which is frankly crude in the extreme. Basically the autoleads lead has the connector to replace the Bose amp and connect directly to all the speakers in the car. The front and rear tweeters are fed directly by the replacement head unit base and center dash speakers are fed by an after market amp, all the wiring is in the loom, very straight forward. You have to keep the old PCM to revert the car to 19th century in order to sell it it would seem !
Alex,Thanks for the info, Porsche sell 997's with all manner of third party audio systems in Japan. A look at the approved used car locator shows dash pics with a variety of units.
I spoke to a couple of OPC's on Friday and they both said that warranty will only be affected if the issue is directly related to mods.
I have a Kenwood DNX7240BT that might just worm its way into the car. Did you use the PC9-408 adapter? Do you know if by using this, can you retain all the Bose paraphernalia and not worry about additional amplification for the centre channel?
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_...
..I have a Kenwood DNX swap out system in mine too, touch screen, bluetooth phone, Ipodery, it's a big job to do as the amp needs to be swapped out too, but most places do a fitting service, about a £1000 + fitting to do the lot, worth it to get shot of the PCM2 which is almost as good as rubbish..!
Edited by RatBoy M3CSL on Sunday 20th January 20:40
The total cost for me was about £150, I already have the replacement head unit. The lead is a Autoleads PC2-95-4, supplied by Rudie Mods in Essex at £26, Twin din fascia kit £35. I removed the PCM head unit, Bose amp, CD player and Nav unit. These are all very simple to remove being held by clips. There is no need to interfere with any of the wiring or optic leads. The harness has the special socket that replaces the Bose and connects to the cars wiring, it feeds the front and rear speaker groups directly from the replacement head unit using the standard din plug. The only speakers not fed are the door base units, center speaker and sub woofers if you have them. The harness does have wires for these speakers for connection to a after market amp, I used a Kenwood KAC-6405 four channel (£75) fed by two Dual RCA leads from the head units line outputs. This amp was put in place of the CD / Nav units and only just fitted, the speaker leads from the harness were simply placed into the output terminals of the Amp. I don't have the sub woofers so didn't use those wires, the door base speakers are only 1 ohm resistance so I wired them in series and thus achieved 2 ohms and used one channel of the amps B channel base outputs. The center speaker I wired to the A channel higher frequency output. I also moved the harness and plug up to the amp (ex CD ) compartment. I only used two of the amps outputs and so a 2 channel amp could be used in this configuration. The harness takes power from the Bose socket and feeds it up to the head unit. I didn't use this, instead I used the same terminals, but with heavier cable to feed the amp directly. I used the original power source Din plug to supply the head unit, this is the only piece of the cars harness I used, all of the leads on this plug are used, power, ground and the antena power, this powers the aerial amplifier. What is missing from the plug is ignition switched power. This power must be supplied to the head unit and the amplifier, I took the supply from fuse C1 in the fuse box (an unused fuse) put an inline fuse in and fed the wire to the head unit and down to the amplifier. Threading the wires is very easy, take the trim unit out of the trunk to reveal all the units, don't replace it until you have set up the sound! I did not disconnect or remove the battery, instead I removed the two fuses for the sound system which are the two bottom right, consequently I have had no problems with the cars systems or any warnings and this is a Chrono fit. At the head unit establish the battery and switched power terminals, Porsche along with VW and Audi reverse these from the din convention, my unit Zenec came with a short harness with plugs that enabled easy reversal, the Porsche harness does not have a switched source so this must be added to the plug (from fuse C1). All in all, for anyone who is a bit handy this is a very easy thing to do. The only mod is to supply switched power to the din plug and this can be done with a adaptor lead as supplied by Zenec in my case. The above assumes that your head unit has line ouputs if not then two of the speaker feeds would have to be put into the amp, these could be tapped from the harness at the plug and socket. The result in my case is superb, adjustment of the amps levels is important before refitting the boot trim as it's not possible once trim is replaced so be conservative with the bass output. The result is better than the original, tested with Meatloaf!!! The twin din surround fits perfectly and the final result very neat indeed. The big advantage of the Zenec unit is that the Maps are on a SD card that plugs into the front of the unit, it is thus easily removed, put into a computer and updated frequently for speed cameras both fixed and mobile, average speed, and red lights. This info downloaded from 'Pocketgpsworld'. Any further hints, tips etc will be happy to supply.
Edited by alexisn on Sunday 20th January 22:59
Thanks for that, it's quite a write-up. I put an extremely good Pioneer touchscreen into a previous 987 Boxster about 5yrs ago so I know it can be done but that car didn't have Bose, which I know makes all the difference.
It's good to know a Bose amp can be bypassed relatively easily. I've known it done but it can involve a huge amount to work with the amp so although I guess you had to do a good amount of planning with all this, the installation didn't seem to take long. Congratulations.
As an aside, just like many others I nearly gave up reading through such a heavy block of text and only persisted because I was interested in what you've done. Thanks all the same.
It's good to know a Bose amp can be bypassed relatively easily. I've known it done but it can involve a huge amount to work with the amp so although I guess you had to do a good amount of planning with all this, the installation didn't seem to take long. Congratulations.
As an aside, just like many others I nearly gave up reading through such a heavy block of text and only persisted because I was interested in what you've done. Thanks all the same.
SalesManager said:
Mankey, how long does it take for the Pioneer to wake up?
I don't have the car any longer, but as I remember I don't think I was ever kept waiting long for it to start up. I think it might have been around 20-30 seconds.That was a 5yr old unit so things will have undoubtedly improved by now. Are you thinking of doing something like that yourself?
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