GT3 discussion
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According to some, they're "the runt of the GT3 litter". 
They're the seminal GT3. Anyone who's driven and or owned one, knows they're one of the best. What they lack in outright grunt compared with the 997 versions is made up for with vastly increased tactility and increased levels of engagement. They're superb cars,and as many who've owned and sold them will attest, they miss them. I looked at both the Zanzibar cars at 911V recently, they were both superb examples.
Richards car had a bit too much carbon inside (doors and steering wheel) for my taste but otherwise, it was a fantastic example.
They're the seminal GT3. Anyone who's driven and or owned one, knows they're one of the best. What they lack in outright grunt compared with the 997 versions is made up for with vastly increased tactility and increased levels of engagement. They're superb cars,and as many who've owned and sold them will attest, they miss them. I looked at both the Zanzibar cars at 911V recently, they were both superb examples.
Richards car had a bit too much carbon inside (doors and steering wheel) for my taste but otherwise, it was a fantastic example.
Lovely cars - the "best of breed" IMHO and it's much less common to see one on the road (although I did see a Zanzibar red 996 GT3 in my village a couple of weeks ago)!
Better on depreciation, generally more reliable that the volume models (Turbo's excepted), fast, raw, noisy and a challenge to drive fast ......
Better on depreciation, generally more reliable that the volume models (Turbo's excepted), fast, raw, noisy and a challenge to drive fast ......
After nearly four years I am still totally loved up with my Mk1.
They are substantially built and will take a heap load of abuse (should you be so inclined). The body feels i-beam solid, the engine and drive-train feel bombproof (and are), and all the controls rifle-bolt precise. You press or move any of the primary controls even 0.5mm and you get a response. It's as if the steering, brakes and throttle are wired directly into your brain. This combined with the textural, detailed feedback - that is real, not contrived - it is not difficult to feel 'at one' with the car.
The suspension - stock - is perfectly judged and while there are minimal throws and very little body roll, it remains remarkably supple on UK roads. The only concern is the ride height but this is an aside from the effectiveness of the body and suspension as being both comfortable and enabling breathtaking handling.
To me they are stunning, out-of-this-world looking machines and my heart rate increases just going into the garage.
All this and I haven't got onto the engine yet which in my belief is the best engine ever to bestow a 911. The fact you're throttling an engine that is good enough for LeMans adds to the appeal.
The whole package is so good I wonder if Porsche deliberately engineered it this way, or whether a little serendipity is at work.
I congratulate you on your purchase and would be interested to hear your views with your growing familiarity!
They are substantially built and will take a heap load of abuse (should you be so inclined). The body feels i-beam solid, the engine and drive-train feel bombproof (and are), and all the controls rifle-bolt precise. You press or move any of the primary controls even 0.5mm and you get a response. It's as if the steering, brakes and throttle are wired directly into your brain. This combined with the textural, detailed feedback - that is real, not contrived - it is not difficult to feel 'at one' with the car.
The suspension - stock - is perfectly judged and while there are minimal throws and very little body roll, it remains remarkably supple on UK roads. The only concern is the ride height but this is an aside from the effectiveness of the body and suspension as being both comfortable and enabling breathtaking handling.
To me they are stunning, out-of-this-world looking machines and my heart rate increases just going into the garage.
All this and I haven't got onto the engine yet which in my belief is the best engine ever to bestow a 911. The fact you're throttling an engine that is good enough for LeMans adds to the appeal.
The whole package is so good I wonder if Porsche deliberately engineered it this way, or whether a little serendipity is at work.
I congratulate you on your purchase and would be interested to hear your views with your growing familiarity!
agtlaw said:
Slowest and ugliest GT3. Shared front end mechanicals with a boxster! Not an RS. Liked by beards and those who have a favourite brand of polish. Track drivers known for shouting and crying like a baby when they can't pass a BMW. Enjoy.
Trolling again agt?You really need to get out more.
I have no problem with someone having a different view (but why post a negative one?), although how you can like an RS but not a MK1 is slightly strange, when they share so much.
What bugs me is the way you need to continually get personal with some of the lads who add a lot more help and banter the forum than yourself. It's a bit sad to watch.
Anyway, sorry for not managing to ignore him lads, I will from now on.
Fattrader, as I said in the other thread, congrats on the purchase, you'll love it. Sounds like a thoroughly sorted example.
red997 said:
had my Mk1 clubsport for nearly 4 years now - absolutely love it;
gutted that I'm going to have to sell it
Hi red, yours is the same as mine if I remember in guards red? That's bad news, are you replacing it or freeing up some funds?gutted that I'm going to have to sell it
Good luck with the sale, it should fly off the shelf being a clubbie.
agtlaw said:
Slowest and ugliest GT3. Shared front end mechanicals with a boxster! Not an RS. Liked by beards and those who have a favourite brand of polish. Track drivers known for shouting and crying like a baby when they can't pass a BMW. Enjoy.
But the only differentiating factor from the 986 is your adjustable bottom links (that you probably didn't know exist or have ever adjusted).For the record, there are many differences between the GT3/RS and 986. But you wouldn't be interested.
Give the guy a break. He's only just bought the f
g thing.
SonnyM said:
So was the Mk 1 the last to be hand built by the Motorsport division? If so why did the subsequent models move out of the division?
Yes the Mk1 was built in Weissach (alongside the Cup/RS cars of the period) and subsequent models in Zuffenhausen.I suspect the top reason was to save money because it's not difficult to imagine that a group of Motorsport engineers building a car on a platform obviously costs more than workers on the moving assembly line.
Edited by GT Glee on Thursday 6th December 18:28
red997 said:
marky911 said:
Hi red, yours is the same as mine if I remember in guards red? That's bad news, are you replacing it or freeing up some funds?
Good luck with the sale, it should fly off the shelf being a clubbie.
yeah sort of - paying a solicitor....Good luck with the sale, it should fly off the shelf being a clubbie.
David
Cheers
Lee
Ouch! That sucks David.
For some reason all of my post didn't appear before.
GT Glee, great summary! I can't add anything to that. Sums it up for me too.
I'm looking forward to spring to start learning my car. I've only done a few hundred miles.
Until then I'll just be carrying out some extensive and elaborate polish tests, to see which one allows me to see the reflection of my beard the best.
ETA - Go on there Lee. Like a rat up a drainpipe.
For some reason all of my post didn't appear before.
GT Glee, great summary! I can't add anything to that. Sums it up for me too.
I'm looking forward to spring to start learning my car. I've only done a few hundred miles.
Until then I'll just be carrying out some extensive and elaborate polish tests, to see which one allows me to see the reflection of my beard the best.
ETA - Go on there Lee. Like a rat up a drainpipe.
Edited by marky911 on Thursday 6th December 18:28
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