6RS for rebuild anyone?
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Track day accident? Do I read that right that it doesn't have a Cat C or D status?
http://www.copart.co.uk/c2/homeSearch.html?_eventI...
bert
http://www.copart.co.uk/c2/homeSearch.html?_eventI...
bert
That doesn't look like bad damage at all - even the bumper crash tubes are un-bent (or virtually so). Can't tell if the bonnet's still aligned about right (and hopefully undamaged as it's carbon fibre on an RS AFAIK) but if so then being as the airbags & wheels are OK then £3/4k for bumper, lights, wings & rads could see it all sorted. Actually, I might bid. 
Err, on second thoughts, it looks like a wreck, not worth more than scrap value - £500? 
Err, on second thoughts, it looks like a wreck, not worth more than scrap value - £500? Terminator X said:
Eh, how is it possible to avoid Cat ? status when the car is quite clearly f
ked?!
TX.
Cat C and d are applied by insurance companies.ked?!TX.
If there's not an insurance claim then it doesn't get catagorized.
Hence it's possible that some cars get completely rebuilt and a HPI check shows nothing untoward.
It's also the case that a lot of large fleets, especially goods vehicles are self insured and these don't get categorized either.
This car has been around for a while and was advertised on eBay and other salvage sites before going onto auction on copart.
Which to me, suggests damage is more significant than it appears as it would have sold otherwise, from recollection it was pretty competitively priced.
Guess it had a serious off on a track day else it would be likely to be insurance recorded.
Would seriously suggest a viewing and thorough inspection before bidding.
Which to me, suggests damage is more significant than it appears as it would have sold otherwise, from recollection it was pretty competitively priced.
Guess it had a serious off on a track day else it would be likely to be insurance recorded.
Would seriously suggest a viewing and thorough inspection before bidding.
the GT3 and RS both use a modified C4 shell (not C4S). they arent widebody. 997 RS is however widebody v 997 GT3 narrowbody.
the only difference between a C2 and C4 shell is the rear wall of the boot space and the boot floor (due to rear wall). neither are structural and a C2 can be changed into a C4 or vice versa very simply via removal of a few spot welds, some seam sealer and switching two small panels.
the change in the rear boot wall on the C4 shell creates an empty space forward of the fuel tank where the diff can be placed.
the GT3/RS used this front end as the empty space for the diff allowed the fuel tank to be increased in capacity for endurance racing while meeting FIA rules. no part of the fuel tank can be ahead of the front axle.
the RHD cars see no benefit from this however since theres no large fuel tank made for the RHD configuration, it only exists in LHD.. theres no difference between a LHD and RHD shell either, its the steering column placement that makes the tanks left or right sided.
due to the ease with which the two front panels can be changed, C2 shells make the most sense as the basis for any narrow body reshell due to availability and price.
it is C2 shells that are used when reshelling 996 cups now since there are no new shells available from porsche anymore for this very reason.
for a RHD reshell there would be no point in changing the front panels so you could save yourself some time and money and only change the rear firewall and engine mount locations to pieces used for the GT3. on a LHD car you would need to change these two front panels also if you wanted to run the large tank, if you didnt you could similarly leave as is.
fwiw, have a look at the right A pillar area. this car looks like it could be less straightforward than it appears (and hence why its there rather than just been repaired quickly) though the low res/sized photos are hardly conclusive.
the only difference between a C2 and C4 shell is the rear wall of the boot space and the boot floor (due to rear wall). neither are structural and a C2 can be changed into a C4 or vice versa very simply via removal of a few spot welds, some seam sealer and switching two small panels.
the change in the rear boot wall on the C4 shell creates an empty space forward of the fuel tank where the diff can be placed.
the GT3/RS used this front end as the empty space for the diff allowed the fuel tank to be increased in capacity for endurance racing while meeting FIA rules. no part of the fuel tank can be ahead of the front axle.
the RHD cars see no benefit from this however since theres no large fuel tank made for the RHD configuration, it only exists in LHD.. theres no difference between a LHD and RHD shell either, its the steering column placement that makes the tanks left or right sided.
due to the ease with which the two front panels can be changed, C2 shells make the most sense as the basis for any narrow body reshell due to availability and price.
it is C2 shells that are used when reshelling 996 cups now since there are no new shells available from porsche anymore for this very reason.
for a RHD reshell there would be no point in changing the front panels so you could save yourself some time and money and only change the rear firewall and engine mount locations to pieces used for the GT3. on a LHD car you would need to change these two front panels also if you wanted to run the large tank, if you didnt you could similarly leave as is.
fwiw, have a look at the right A pillar area. this car looks like it could be less straightforward than it appears (and hence why its there rather than just been repaired quickly) though the low res/sized photos are hardly conclusive.
fioran0 said:
fwiw, have a look at the right A pillar area. this car looks like it could be less straightforward than it appears (and hence why its there rather than just been repaired quickly) though the low res/sized photos are hardly conclusive.
I did notice that but wondered if simply the door wasn't shut right due to having a flat (or no) battery, hence windows not working.I can't see that car being anywhere near needing a reshell either btw, as per my earlier comments.
spikeyhead said:
Cat C and d are applied by insurance companies.
If there's not an insurance claim then it doesn't get catagorized.
You can have a very large insurance claim and it isn't recorded as a 'cat' anything. Cat C or D means that the car was written off. If there's not an insurance claim then it doesn't get catagorized.
I've saved the photos and obtained the full chassis number of this car for future reference as i expect it'll eventually be on the market with 'minor bumper damage repaired'
agtlaw said:
You can have a very large insurance claim and it isn't recorded as a 'cat' anything. Cat C or D means that the car was written off.
That's confusing. Would the insurance pay out and the car not be repaired? I thought they only paid for the repairs or wrote the car off.Bert
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