Cars are not selling
Discussion
Mr Ping said:
every man and his dog appears to be obsessed with Audi R8s these days.
Really? Jesus. They look so dated to me. Kinda like they've got "made in 2007" stamped all across their windscreens. Nah. I reckon cars ain't selling thanks to the longest recession since the 1930s. That - and maybe because folks are looking for the next new thing, as opposed to the timeless classical beauty of a 911.
I suppose the asking price may have an influence, I have my Esprit up for sale at the moment and its been on Pistonheads for just over a week and I've had 5 very serious enquiries about it. Perhaps £20K is a sum people are prepared to spend and maybe cars in the £50-70K aren't moving that quickly. Having said that nobody has actually bought the car yet.
I dont like the look of the R8's personally but I just find it amusing how many people bang on about them - plus I have been plagued by complete bellends driving them 1 inch away from my bumper in the gym car park trying to prove a point.
My missus also got given a copy of Fifty Shades of s
te sorry I mean grey and I read a few pages of that for amusement value and noted that the author made a big deal out of the multi millionaire guy driving an R8 - I cannot imagine why anybody with millions would pick an R8 of all cars....I think the author must drive an a3 tdi or something and think an R8 is the pinnacle of motoring.
My missus also got given a copy of Fifty Shades of s
te sorry I mean grey and I read a few pages of that for amusement value and noted that the author made a big deal out of the multi millionaire guy driving an R8 - I cannot imagine why anybody with millions would pick an R8 of all cars....I think the author must drive an a3 tdi or something and think an R8 is the pinnacle of motoring.I rather like R8s myself.
They drive brilliantly, they're beautifully made like all Audis, very cheap to run by comparison to their competition and very usable. Why on earth would a multi-millionaire not use one as a daily driver? (As he might a 991)
Poodling around town or to the shops in the Aventador or Carrera GT not really that practical is it
They drive brilliantly, they're beautifully made like all Audis, very cheap to run by comparison to their competition and very usable. Why on earth would a multi-millionaire not use one as a daily driver? (As he might a 991)
Poodling around town or to the shops in the Aventador or Carrera GT not really that practical is it
RankAmateur said:
Mr Ping said:
every man and his dog appears to be obsessed with Audi R8s these days.
Really? Jesus. They look so dated to me. Kinda like they've got "made in 2007" stamped all across their windscreens. Nah. I reckon cars ain't selling thanks to the longest recession since the 1930s. That - and maybe because folks are looking for the next new thing, as opposed to the timeless classical beauty of a 911.
There's none so blind, as they say......
REALIST123 said:
Are you really saying that the R8 looks dated and the 911, which has been visually near enough the same for maybe 16/17 years, arguably much longer, doesn't?
There's none so blind, as they say......
Most new things don't age well, and designs that are all the rage one day look faintly embarrassing the next. Just look at high fashion from the 1980s, all big hair and shoulder pads. Nowadays this all looks laughable. Some designs, however, come through the trough of ridicule and make it out the other side as timeless classics. The Corbusier "Barcelona" chair. The London tube map. The coca-cola bottle. The point of these design classics is that they transcend the short-lived pop of throwaway culture. That's what makes them special. The 911 is very much in that timeless class: it is undeniably one of the most iconic and evocative shapes in automobile history. It survived the chop by merely a whisker in 1977 (its own trough) - and the intended replacement 928 shows how most designs don't acquire that same timeless status. In contrast to the 911, the R8 has had its moment of whizz-bang, but has yet a lot to prove before it enters the hall of timeless designs. In the mean time, to my eyes, it looks dated.There's none so blind, as they say......
I think most cars are only selling if they are absolute bargains or from dealers where you can get finance. I'm not talking just about Porsches, but in general.
Selling privately is a nightmare. Buyers never turn up and when they do, they make ridiculous offers just because they have some cash in their pockets. It's like an Arabian market. I suppose some sellers are desperate and that's what they're looking for.
Car Swaps (if they're sensible) might be the way to go if you fancy changing to a different Porsche model but it hasn't happened yet.
It's a great concept, eg:
'Lovingly looked-after Porsche 996 Turbo, value £25,000, wanted in exchange for similarly pampered Porsche 964, with approx £5000 in cash your way.'
I might even set up a website....
Selling privately is a nightmare. Buyers never turn up and when they do, they make ridiculous offers just because they have some cash in their pockets. It's like an Arabian market. I suppose some sellers are desperate and that's what they're looking for.
Car Swaps (if they're sensible) might be the way to go if you fancy changing to a different Porsche model but it hasn't happened yet.
It's a great concept, eg:
'Lovingly looked-after Porsche 996 Turbo, value £25,000, wanted in exchange for similarly pampered Porsche 964, with approx £5000 in cash your way.'
I might even set up a website....
Edited by 993kimbo on Monday 28th January 19:35
Friend put his rs4 avant up for sale lunch time yesterday, viewed and deposit taken by tea time.
The car was perfectly prepared with a great warranty and also priced just under £20k where as other similar mileage/age cars are advertised at just above.
I don't think there is any magic to selling a car quickly privately, make it a good deal and it will be snapped up.
Try and compete with the professionals and it will stick around.
Selling is largely about making your product compelling (achieved most easily through scarcity or price)
The car was perfectly prepared with a great warranty and also priced just under £20k where as other similar mileage/age cars are advertised at just above.
I don't think there is any magic to selling a car quickly privately, make it a good deal and it will be snapped up.
Try and compete with the professionals and it will stick around.
Selling is largely about making your product compelling (achieved most easily through scarcity or price)
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