Two S or not two S, that's the question

[flipflop1]

So with a theoretical 25k in your hip and a 997 designation a must, is it a 997 2s or or just a 2, that best fits the bill.

On the S, faster, wider, louder, slightly more dosh, slightly more chance of bors scores / cooling issues.

On the 2, slower, thinner, cheaper, harder to sell? Journos choice in most reviews.

Decent choices in the Market just now so both options available.

I realise theres not massive margins on any of the above but Any comments most welcome as I have a theoretical sore head trying o work out where to place my hard earned....And I welcome any help to decide on what's he best decision.

Tia

Flip

[pete]

Not wider...

[mrdemon]

Always get the S :-)

[Gibbo205]

25k for a decent S might be stretch. Yet 25k should get a very nice C2.

My view is the S is well worth it and engines are pretty rock solid, touches wood even amidst the online horror stories.

[r4_rick]

C2

[Ady128]

I've always gone for the bog standard car. 1) Boxster 2.7; 2) Boxster 2.9; 3) 991 3.4. Less is more as they say. But then again buy the best you can afford, as others say!

[jonnydm]

I'd want an S and some sort of warranty. You could go OPC and haggle hard at month end on one of the ~£30k cars that have been hanging around. Otherwise, either of the 2Ss at RSJ at £25/26k look good.

[FisiP1]

Ady128 said:

I've always gone for the bog standard car. 1) Boxster 2.7; 2) Boxster 2.9; 3) 991 3.4. Less is more as they say. But then again buy the best you can afford, as others say!

Same here, always been happy with the standard car, not to say that I have got on with them all, but nothing the S variant would have fixed.

[Diesel130]

S and 2S are the same width.

I'd go for the S every time, as I suspect others would, hence your comment about resale is very relevant.

Don't forget, though that options and colour will affect price/resale too. e.g. Sports Chrono seems a must and if its got PSE that's a big plus.

[Wozy68]

Bog standard C2 all the way ............ including the standard wheels. Supposed to be a better drive with them.

[Bennachie]

Two is a number..............
To is a preposition.



Buy both of them

[Mr Ping]

I was trying to work this out myself when I stumbled across somebody stating that the standard 2 revs higher and is more fun to drive despite having less grunt - if you like revvy engines that is.

Not sure how much truth there is in this as have driven neither but also haven't heard the sentiment echoed by others either since.

[type-r]

Great article here, partly quoted below - personally I would go for 2S every time:

Grant Neal said:

The price has risen by nearly £2,000 over the 996 Carrera 2 (which was £56,630) with prices now starting at £58,530, but in addition to the changes mentioned above the specification has improved and now includes the following additional items as standard equipment- PCM colour control screen, PSM (Porsche Stability Management), 18 inch wheels, oil temperature gauge and Sound Pack plus. Although it should be noted that several items previously standard are now extra, including the rear wiper and metallic paint, which is now a £542.85 add on!

The 997 Carrera S is priced at £65,000 and aside from the uprated engine (mentioned earlier: 30 bhp and 30nm torque) it also has the following extra goodies as standard to help account for the £6470 extra over the standard Carrera

Four exhaust pipes
PASM (Porsche Active Suspension management) with a 10mm lowered chassis (a 20mm lowered set up with mechanically locking rear differential is a NCO, but doesn’t feature PASM)
19 inch wheels
Bi-xenon lights and cleaning system
New sport steering wheel
Aluminium dials and dashboard trim
More powerful braking system with the larger discs from 996TT
More powerful coolant pump
Two extra fins on the uprated oil/water heater exchange
Lightweight plastic air intake
Uprated self-adjusting clutch

When you consider that Porsche charge £6,644.63 for the powerkit alone on the 996 (345bhp) the price premium for the S could even look like good value. Particularly when you add a few other S extras to your standard 997, e.g. PASM (£1030) 19-inch wheels (£1018) Bi-Xenon lights (£705), which means you are paying around £3.7k for the other additions including the more powerful engine & brakes.

As with previous 911 models you are likely to end up spending at least £5,000 on extras (even on the S) necessary for best re-sale, like Sat Nav (£1260) and telephone module (£523). Perhaps the Bose sound system at £768, a 6 CD player (£248) Sports Seats (£377) with full electrics adding £1006 & heating £269. A sunroof will set you back £864, cruise £294, Tiptronic £1961, sport chrono pack £507, Tyre Pressure Monitor £427 & all this is before you look at aluminium/carbon/leather extra’s for the cabin! The S even has a VERY tempting sports exhaust option (not available for the 997 Carrera) costing £1160….you know it makes sense!

Edited by type-r on Wednesday 30th January 11:01

[red_slr]

Get a 2S mate not a plain 2.
The S is better for re-sale, better brakes, better spec inside, better chassis etc etc.
Also, the extra power is always nice and the eco is the same give or take.
The 2 feels a bit held back compared to the 2S which feels much more alive in the mid range and feels quite a bit more than 350 horses..