My SY PCCB C2S converted to steel with how to inside. :)

[Gibbo205]

Hi there

Yesterday, I applied a coat of banana dodo juice and sealed the wheels.

Today its having all the brakes changed to steels:-

- 997 Turbo disc all round
- GT3 PF 08 Compound front pads
- Carrera S PF 08 Compound front pads for the rear
- New brake sensors all round

[size=4]The new 997 steel brake disc and Performance Friction 08 front/rear pads[/size]


[size=4]Car looking shiny on the ramp![/size]





[size=4]Pictures of the ceramic disc[/size]




[size=4]Pictures of the steel disc, looking clean for now![/size]




So in short, if anyone ever has a C2S with PCCB and they want to convert to steel you need:-
1. 997 Turbo disc all round £650 - £850 cost for all 4 depending on discount!
2. Front pads 997 Turbo and GT3 pads will fit, or continue using your ceramic stock pads, they will work fine! (Performance Friction 08 pads, approx £550 all round, Porsche ceramic Pads approx £700 all round)
3. Rear pads, you need to use 997 Carrera S front pads for the rear calipers, or the stock ceramic pads work fine!

Pad wise I've gone with PF08's though as they are supposed to be superb on road and track, zero fade and will last upto approx 10 hard driven trackdays, wheras the stock ceramic pads are only good for 4-5 track days and cost more.

Every fitted and all working fine, car drives great and the 08 pads seem to bite very hard from cold, better than ceramics, car does feel heavier, but can't give a proper over-view until I've driven car more.

Now the ceramics shall be put in a safe place.

[RiccardoG]

Interesting, but why did you remove the ceramics in the first place?

[Gibbo205]

RiccardoG said:

Interesting, but why did you remove the ceramics in the first place?

I enjoy doing track days, which can hit ceramics hard and at £2500 +VAT per disc I'd rather not risk killing them, plus it is always in the back of my head about them, so I don't brake as hard/short as I could.

Hence the change.

[mrdemon]

can you feel the turn in has changed with the extra weight ?

[Gibbo205]

mrdemon said:

can you feel the turn in has changed with the extra weight ?

Only driven it back from garage, which was straight lines, so no idea, shall feedback after I've driven it more.

Pedal feel is better though!

[keep it lit]

looking forward to seeing them glowing red hot by Friday afternoon!

[Gibbo205]

keep it lit said:

looking forward to seeing them glowing red hot by Friday afternoon!

I'll be driving around Oulton like a granny, my first time there!

[supermono]

Incredible that feel is already better driving home with brand new brakes!

I found the killer was immense cabin noise braking hard from speed but litheness reduced too with the manhole covers

SM

[Gibbo205]

supermono said:

Incredible that feel is already better driving home with brand new brakes!

I found the killer was immense cabin noise braking hard from speed but litheness reduced too with the manhole covers

SM

Bit more feedback!

Pedal feel is better!

Dust dust dust, OMG what is this dust.
Also they squeal and squeak a bit, might be a newness thing.
Braking is not as smooth or quiet, the PCCB was super-smooth and quiet, the steel is not in comparison.

Can feel the extra unsprung weight over bumps, on some its better, more of a thud and others its worse, think hitting a pothole would be far worse now as the suspension has to work harder.

Handling/performance, not driven in anger yet, so yet to come.

Without a doubt ceramics are cleaner, quieter and handle bumps etc. better due to less unsprung mass.

[Trev450]

I've used PF pads in my track car for about 3 years now and find them fantastic. They are prone to squealing, however, so you may want to get yourself some Ceratec paste for the shims.

[Gibbo205]

Trev450 said:

I've used PF pads in my track car for about 3 years now and find them fantastic. They are prone to squealing, however, so you may want to get yourself some Ceratec paste for the shims.

Hi m8

When you say the shims do you mean the dampeners which stick to the back of the pad?

Have to admit to not having any shims that I know off, just put new dampeners into the calipers, slid the pads in which stuck to the pads as intended.

Are there some shims which can be purchased and then added to help quieten things down?