View on 3.2 Carrera Club Sport prices.

[Citrus7]

Having read the latest article in Total911 magazine, what are people's view of the value of these cars at the mo ?

Seems a sensible place to put your money in a clean example, but just wondering what is a sensible price

Dave.

[Geneve]

I'm not in touch with prices and very wary about the increasing reference to cars as potential investment.

But, I had a 3.2 'Club Sport' for 12 years and it was an absolute gem - probably the 'nicest' 911 I have ever owned - and I've had (and kept) a few.

[Citrus7]

Geneve said:

I'm not in touch with prices and very wary about the increasing reference to cars as potential investment.

But, I had a 3.2 'Club Sport' for 12 years and it was an absolute gem - probably the 'nicest' 911 I have ever owned - and I've had (and kept) a few.

Agree fully re investments, but hopefully being realistic it would be nice to have a car that doesn't depreciate as fast as others, or at least stays static price wise. Any additional value is a bonus

Good to hear about you experience with the car though. I've had a 996 C2 and 997 GT3. Although the latter was an amazing car, it was just too fast for road use and thus very hard to get real enjoyment from it at legal speeds. After purchasing a Caterham last year, I've experienced getting back to basics with cars and enjoying the fun of driving at more moderate speeds.

I'm hoping an older , simpler 911, will provide the same.

Dave.

[mudy]

If you are buying a Clubsport for investment then it's all about low miles, which means you can't drive it and fully enjoy it once you've bought it imo

Investment does not equal driving enjoyment

If you really want to enjoy this car buyer a higher mileage car for a lot less and enjoy it a lot more!

[blackmamba]

Geneve said:

But, I had a 3.2 'Club Sport' for 12 years and it was an absolute gem - probably the 'nicest' 911 I have ever owned - and I've had (and kept) a few.

Do you mind me asking why you sold it in that case and what you replaced it with? I like the idea of a 3.2 CS but I am having trouble getting my head around the premium over a 3.2 Carrera Sport. I had one for 4 years and loved it but quite fancy a sharper version (if that is what the CS is).

Thanks

[Geneve]

blackmamba said:

Geneve said:

But, I had a 3.2 'Club Sport' for 12 years and it was an absolute gem - probably the 'nicest' 911 I have ever owned - and I've had (and kept) a few.

Do you mind me asking why you sold it in that case and what you replaced it with? I like the idea of a 3.2 CS but I am having trouble getting my head around the premium over a 3.2 Carrera Sport. I had one for 4 years and loved it but quite fancy a sharper version (if that is what the CS is).
Thanks

I bought my 3.2 CS with c.900 mls in the mid '90s and used it fairly regularly over 12 years. The CS was more 'special' and more significantly lightened, compared to an SE, than many people realised, plus the tweeked engine. Drove beautifully - so crisp. But I also had a 2.7RSL and 997GT3, and I regretfully let it go to a collector. Bought a race car instead.

[billy964]

sold my 80k mile '88 in vgc a couple of years back for 40k in order to purchase a fully restored 75 carrera 2.7 for double the price. check impactbumpers.com for lots of threads on these cars... hairpin last sold a 20k miler for around 70,000 and auction car with good history with 50k on the clock sold for around 50 odd grand. would expect to be higher now as several mag articles over last year or so focused on their limited numbers and desirability. there is a car knocking about with starship mileage ie 200k+ that still sold for for over 28k i think. fantastic cars.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

The high mileage car has gone now, went to Australia with 240k miles on the clock or so for just under 25k. Every invoice & piece if history with it though-a total beauty!

For some daft reason I didn't buy it

[bogtrotter]

How can the price differential between a cs and a std 3.2 be justified?....like many other variants of the 911 the price is being driven up by those who see potential for an "investment".... Should cars be treated in this way ? I personally don't think so! Yes it's quite nice if your vehicle does not depreciate or even increases slowly over time , but the increases in price of some models ( leaving others out in the cold) has been frankly ridiculous ...how much longer can the market keep on in this way ?
I seem to recall a huge crash in prices in the 80's ...can this happen again ? ..just my 2p worth.

[Fulla]

bogtrotter said:

How can the price differential between a cs and a std 3.2 be justified?

The CS is a lightened more focused car produced by Porsche in limited numbers of around 340 cars and had it's own spec number of M637. It was intended as a special lightweight 911 for fast road or track work and with some small modifications a club racer.
It follows the rule of less is more and has some unique specifications such as hollow intake valves and a blueprinted engine. The crankcase and cylinder heads are stamped SP to differentiate the CS from a standard car.
There is a long list of items deleted and items specific to the CS along with weight saving such as lighter wiring loom and no passenger sun visor like RS's of old.
With the famous 2.7 RS there where around 1,500 units sold so the CS at around 340 is a rare beast. Having said that it doesn't have the competition history of the RS, if it did then the difference in price would not be questioned.
Is it worth a premium over a standard car? Well for some people yes as the some of it's parts or lack of make a that premium justified. At this point I have to say I am biased as I own one. And I have to say it feels much more special then a standard 3.2. I bought the car as I have wanted one since I first set eyes on one back in the 80's. Mine has done over 100k and that for me is great as I am not worried about putting miles on it. Am I happy of the potential investment? Well I am happy that I am not loosing the money tied up in the car but if I wanted an investment then I would buy a 911 with RS on it's rump.
So for those that get the CS it is worth the extra premium and it is nice to see people and magazines recognising the specialness of this low volume 911.