964 RS Low miles
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lotus211

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2,961 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Imported from Japan from a private collection is the story. Don't like the colour personally but he recons service history/numbers stack up . Obviously would require an inspection

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Possible as there are far more LHD cars imported than there are Japanese market cars.

I wonder whether it has been auctioned? If so any prospective buyer would do well to see the auction report.

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

229 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Looks like good value, but then color is very much so so...even for a LHD in view of its very low mileage it seems a bargain!

Definitely not a color I would buy, even if everything else stacks up.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

226 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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The midnight blue 3k miles car sold last year at over £100k iirc

Nice car smile

Slippydiff

16,386 posts

253 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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My first RS was Midnight, it looks better in the flesh.
Someone in the UK should buy it quick before Thomas at H & S does . . . . . (it'll then reappear on the market at 100+ euros)

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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I love the colour - but then I dislike rubystone that everyone else seems to love.
Good thing we are all different.
:-)

lotus211

Original Poster:

2,961 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Slippydiff said:
My first RS was Midnight, it looks better in the flesh.
Someone in the UK should buy it quick before Thomas at H & S does . . . . . (it'll then reappear on the market at 100+ euros)
Who do you get to inspect such a car? I've used Peter Morgan before (or at least one of he's men) and there was a lot missed. These things happen so no gripe but who else in the Porsche world counts ?

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Ray Northway not too far away.

SignalGruen

632 posts

230 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Get a BIMTA mileage check done so that you can ensure that it hasn't had a haircut. Although to be fair most of the RS stuff going through auctions (assuming it has come from an auction) is usually low mileage anyway. Also Jap de-reg certificate now has the mileage on it so ask to see that if they still have a copy of it.



Edited by SignalGruen on Tuesday 25th June 21:13

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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They can do that, but they wont have done that before it was auctioned and the auction report mileage is what BIMTA will disclose. Better to avoid BIMTA though, who are a self serving waste of space, and ask to see the auction sheet.

With regards to the de-registration certificate. You exchange it for the V5C with the DVLA so it wont be available and from memory, they have never had the odometer reading on them.

The auction sheet will also disclose any damage history too, so state the grade if you see it (and theres no reason not to keep it, for any vehicle).

peshwengi

47 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Japanese cars are RHD though....

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Most Porsche cars in Japan are left hand drive. They prefer the cachet that comes with it.

The country code for Japan is C18 for right hand drive vehicle, but Porsche have a country code for officially produced for, and imported to Japan by Porsches concessionaire LHD models too, which is C08.

GJB

472 posts

288 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Midnight = Metallic + Dark Blue = Non-Metallic

SignalGruen

632 posts

230 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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GC8 said:
They can do that, but they wont have done that before it was auctioned and the auction report mileage is what BIMTA will disclose. Better to avoid BIMTA though, who are a self serving waste of space, and ask to see the auction sheet.

With regards to the de-registration certificate. You exchange it for the V5C with the DVLA so it wont be available and from memory, they have never had the odometer reading on them.

The auction sheet will also disclose any damage history too, so state the grade if you see it (and theres no reason not to keep it, for any vehicle).
I'm looking at the angle of it getting a haircut after it leaves Japan. If it's an R grade car than I assume the auction sheet would have been 'lost'.

Current de-reg certificates do have a mileage indicator on them now (I mistakenly thought it was current but it's actually from the last shaken) , not sure when this change was brought in but it was mentioned to me by an exporter. I agree that it's unlikely that whoever imported it would have made a copy (although I personally do for every car I import) but I think there is way of checking it. Either way, I thought it was worth mentioning as I thought it was something worth knowing about Jap imports.


Edited by SignalGruen on Wednesday 26th June 11:10


Edited by SignalGruen on Wednesday 26th June 11:14

GC8

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Wednesday 26th June 2013
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hehe I only remembered C18 for LHD manufacture for Japan (because its close to C16 for us) and had to look up the RHD for Japan country code, so dont take me to Las Vegas just yet!

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Slippydiff said:
GC8 said:
They can do that, but they wont have done that before it was auctioned.
I was suggesting a previous owner/s may have done as much.
They may and it would be difficult to know without visiting Japan, but if the owner was Japanese then Id expect that they havent.

Id expect every vehicle that has had its odometer reading falsified to have had it done after it was auctioned, and probably done by a Brit, Australian, Kiwi or similar (not including the 'Arab' cars which Id never touch).

The culture is completely different in Japan: even the autions are honest!

GC8

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220 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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SignalGruen said:
GC8 said:
They can do that, but they wont have done that before it was auctioned and the auction report mileage is what BIMTA will disclose. Better to avoid BIMTA though, who are a self serving waste of space, and ask to see the auction sheet.

With regards to the de-registration certificate. You exchange it for the V5C with the DVLA so it wont be available and from memory, they have never had the odometer reading on them.

The auction sheet will also disclose any damage history too, so state the grade if you see it (and theres no reason not to keep it, for any vehicle).
I'm looking at the angle of it getting a haircut after it leaves Japan. If it's an R grade car than I assume the auction sheet would have been 'lost'.

Current de-reg certificates do have a mileage indicator on them now (I mistakenly thought it was current but it's actually from the last shaken) , not sure when this change was brought in but it was mentioned to me by an exporter. I agree that it's unlikely that whoever imported it would have made a copy (although I personally do for every car I import) but I think there is way of checking it. Either way, I thought it was worth mentioning as I thought it was something worth knowing about Jap imports.
That shows that havent imported a car for a long time... I too always made a copy which I had endorsed as true by the VRO, along with a copy of the translation and the auction sheet too.

Id expect that if it had any flavour of 'history of repair' grade then theyd be keeping it to themselves. They might not want to share that it was a 3.5 either as anyone paying £70,000-odd who understands Japanese auction grades will be looking for a 4.5, I think.