Another £10k 996 thread...
Discussion
Hi everyone!
I know this topic has been somewhat done to death, but please bear with me...
Having spent the last few years with a long motorway commute, I've been wafting around in a W126 Merc which has been ideal for the job. However, I've moved house and 110 motorway miles per day has become 30 twisty A- and B-road miles, so the trusty barge is slightly out of its comfort zone. I've always wanted a 911 and, using a lethal combination of man maths and happy self-delusion, have persuaded myself that Now Is The Time (Probably).
Hooray etc.
Now, Mrs McAwesome is not quite so sold on the idea and doesn't like the idea of losing loads of money in depreciation. She has also accurately pointed out that we have two children (a babe in arms and a feisty 2-year-old) who will need to fit in at least occasionally.
I am therefore thinking in terms of a manual 996 C2 3.4 with an entry price of about £10k. Manual because I fancy a change from auto; 996 because I suspect the air-cooled options in my price range would struggle to accommodate the kids; C2 because of the extra storage in the nose; 3.4 because 3.6s at my target price have stratospheric mileages (which wouldn't bother me but might make the car hard to sell in future); and £10k because anything cheaper currently advertised seems suspiciously light on detail and I suspect a decent "purist"-spec C2 probably won't sink much from there.
This is pretty much what I have in mind, although sadly I think it's come too soon:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111107956839?ssPageName=...
So, questions:
My understanding from general internet wisdom is that the RMS/crankshaft issues are not as big a deal as they are sometimes made out to be. I guess a small proportion of most types of car goes bang unexpectedly, but the majority are okay if treated and serviced properly. Is that broadly right?
Is 996 sports suspension suitable for UK road use in the real world?
Am I crazy to expect a good car at this price, and if so what can be compromised?
Why are there so many more cheap C4s than C2s? Is it because if you want 4WD, you probably want the C4S?
Am I totally deluded on the depreciation issue?
Anyone got a car they want to sell me??
Any advice gratefully received!
I know this topic has been somewhat done to death, but please bear with me...
Having spent the last few years with a long motorway commute, I've been wafting around in a W126 Merc which has been ideal for the job. However, I've moved house and 110 motorway miles per day has become 30 twisty A- and B-road miles, so the trusty barge is slightly out of its comfort zone. I've always wanted a 911 and, using a lethal combination of man maths and happy self-delusion, have persuaded myself that Now Is The Time (Probably).
Hooray etc.
Now, Mrs McAwesome is not quite so sold on the idea and doesn't like the idea of losing loads of money in depreciation. She has also accurately pointed out that we have two children (a babe in arms and a feisty 2-year-old) who will need to fit in at least occasionally.
I am therefore thinking in terms of a manual 996 C2 3.4 with an entry price of about £10k. Manual because I fancy a change from auto; 996 because I suspect the air-cooled options in my price range would struggle to accommodate the kids; C2 because of the extra storage in the nose; 3.4 because 3.6s at my target price have stratospheric mileages (which wouldn't bother me but might make the car hard to sell in future); and £10k because anything cheaper currently advertised seems suspiciously light on detail and I suspect a decent "purist"-spec C2 probably won't sink much from there.
This is pretty much what I have in mind, although sadly I think it's come too soon:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111107956839?ssPageName=...
So, questions:
My understanding from general internet wisdom is that the RMS/crankshaft issues are not as big a deal as they are sometimes made out to be. I guess a small proportion of most types of car goes bang unexpectedly, but the majority are okay if treated and serviced properly. Is that broadly right?
Is 996 sports suspension suitable for UK road use in the real world?
Am I crazy to expect a good car at this price, and if so what can be compromised?
Why are there so many more cheap C4s than C2s? Is it because if you want 4WD, you probably want the C4S?
Am I totally deluded on the depreciation issue?
Anyone got a car they want to sell me??
Any advice gratefully received!
That looks like a lovely 996 and where I to be in the market for one I'd seriously look at it.
In reply to some of your questions and considerations:
- air cooled not particularly less spacious inside than the 996, but considerably more expensive to buy (though probably no depreciation, potentially some appreciation even);
- RMS is just a leak, can be addressed when changing clutch, unless its very heavy;
- £10k should get you into a decent 996. Make sure that its had some of the main jobs done recently (tyres, brake pads + discs, radiators, clutch, suspension bits, alternator, starter motor...) to avoid big bills coming up
Enjoy the search!
If you change your mind on the 4wd part I have a 996 C4 Manual coming up for sale in a couple of weeks.
silver, Black leather, sports seats, Mo30, Sports exhaust bypass, sunroof, clear light upgrade, 73k miles. Car is a 99 V but comes with a Private plate C4 OUP.
pm if your interested.
silver, Black leather, sports seats, Mo30, Sports exhaust bypass, sunroof, clear light upgrade, 73k miles. Car is a 99 V but comes with a Private plate C4 OUP.
pm if your interested.
Edited by jsmjsm on Thursday 25th July 15:34
jsmjsm said:
If you change your mind on he 4wd part I have a 996 C4 Manual coming up for sale in a couple of weeks.
silver, Black leather, sports seats, Mo30, Sports exhaust bypass, sunroof, clear light upgrade, 73k miles. Car is a 99 V but comes with a Private plate C4 OUP.
pm if your interested.
Oh i wish i hadnt read this. Youre in the same town as me.silver, Black leather, sports seats, Mo30, Sports exhaust bypass, sunroof, clear light upgrade, 73k miles. Car is a 99 V but comes with a Private plate C4 OUP.
pm if your interested.
One of my threads that might be of interest...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I can safely say that suspension is not an issue on our less-than-smooth tarmac roads - it rides very well, isn't crashy and I've had no issues with grounding out.
Not sure about child seats but you can squeeze children in the back, or amputees. I have had four adults but wouldn't recommend it for too long!
As you'll see though I have an extensive set of bills that came with the car and it's scary reading. I would def recommend buying something with a warranty if possible, certainly something with a years MOT!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I can safely say that suspension is not an issue on our less-than-smooth tarmac roads - it rides very well, isn't crashy and I've had no issues with grounding out.
Not sure about child seats but you can squeeze children in the back, or amputees. I have had four adults but wouldn't recommend it for too long!
As you'll see though I have an extensive set of bills that came with the car and it's scary reading. I would def recommend buying something with a warranty if possible, certainly something with a years MOT!
Splendidmac said:
Hi everyone!
I know this topic has been somewhat done to death, but please bear with me...
Having spent the last few years with a long motorway commute, I've been wafting around in a W126 Merc which has been ideal for the job. However, I've moved house and 110 motorway miles per day has become 30 twisty A- and B-road miles, so the trusty barge is slightly out of its comfort zone. I've always wanted a 911 and, using a lethal combination of man maths and happy self-delusion, have persuaded myself that Now Is The Time (Probably).
Hooray etc.
Now, Mrs McAwesome is not quite so sold on the idea and doesn't like the idea of losing loads of money in depreciation. She has also accurately pointed out that we have two children (a babe in arms and a feisty 2-year-old) who will need to fit in at least occasionally.
I am therefore thinking in terms of a manual 996 C2 3.4 with an entry price of about £10k. Manual because I fancy a change from auto; 996 because I suspect the air-cooled options in my price range would struggle to accommodate the kids; C2 because of the extra storage in the nose; 3.4 because 3.6s at my target price have stratospheric mileages (which wouldn't bother me but might make the car hard to sell in future); and £10k because anything cheaper currently advertised seems suspiciously light on detail and I suspect a decent "purist"-spec C2 probably won't sink much from there.
This is pretty much what I have in mind, although sadly I think it's come too soon:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111107956839?ssPageName=...
So, questions:
My understanding from general internet wisdom is that the RMS/crankshaft issues are not as big a deal as they are sometimes made out to be. I guess a small proportion of most types of car goes bang unexpectedly, but the majority are okay if treated and serviced properly. Is that broadly right?
Is 996 sports suspension suitable for UK road use in the real world?
Am I crazy to expect a good car at this price, and if so what can be compromised?
Why are there so many more cheap C4s than C2s? Is it because if you want 4WD, you probably want the C4S?
Am I totally deluded on the depreciation issue?
Anyone got a car they want to sell me??
Any advice gratefully received!
Indeed the car is mine and it's a good one. PM me if your seriously interested. TaI know this topic has been somewhat done to death, but please bear with me...
Having spent the last few years with a long motorway commute, I've been wafting around in a W126 Merc which has been ideal for the job. However, I've moved house and 110 motorway miles per day has become 30 twisty A- and B-road miles, so the trusty barge is slightly out of its comfort zone. I've always wanted a 911 and, using a lethal combination of man maths and happy self-delusion, have persuaded myself that Now Is The Time (Probably).
Hooray etc.
Now, Mrs McAwesome is not quite so sold on the idea and doesn't like the idea of losing loads of money in depreciation. She has also accurately pointed out that we have two children (a babe in arms and a feisty 2-year-old) who will need to fit in at least occasionally.
I am therefore thinking in terms of a manual 996 C2 3.4 with an entry price of about £10k. Manual because I fancy a change from auto; 996 because I suspect the air-cooled options in my price range would struggle to accommodate the kids; C2 because of the extra storage in the nose; 3.4 because 3.6s at my target price have stratospheric mileages (which wouldn't bother me but might make the car hard to sell in future); and £10k because anything cheaper currently advertised seems suspiciously light on detail and I suspect a decent "purist"-spec C2 probably won't sink much from there.
This is pretty much what I have in mind, although sadly I think it's come too soon:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111107956839?ssPageName=...
So, questions:
My understanding from general internet wisdom is that the RMS/crankshaft issues are not as big a deal as they are sometimes made out to be. I guess a small proportion of most types of car goes bang unexpectedly, but the majority are okay if treated and serviced properly. Is that broadly right?
Is 996 sports suspension suitable for UK road use in the real world?
Am I crazy to expect a good car at this price, and if so what can be compromised?
Why are there so many more cheap C4s than C2s? Is it because if you want 4WD, you probably want the C4S?
Am I totally deluded on the depreciation issue?
Anyone got a car they want to sell me??
Any advice gratefully received!
Been looking at them myself these past few days, I keep coming back to this one...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
There's a lot to be said for the wide bodied cars but I do like the more subtlelines of these, a black one overtook me on the M1 last night and it looked superb in the flesh.
(Off to look at an Alfa Brera tomorrow but there's a sub £10k 996 for sale en route to it, might pop in and have a shuftie out of curiosity).
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
There's a lot to be said for the wide bodied cars but I do like the more subtlelines of these, a black one overtook me on the M1 last night and it looked superb in the flesh.
(Off to look at an Alfa Brera tomorrow but there's a sub £10k 996 for sale en route to it, might pop in and have a shuftie out of curiosity).
Edited by P5Nij on Tuesday 30th July 16:53
P5Nij said:
Been looking at them myself these past few days, I keep coming back to this one...
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There's a lot to be said for the wide bodied cars but I do like the more subtlelines of these, a black one overtook me on the M1 last night and it looked superb in the flesh.
(Off to look at an Alfa Brera tomorrow but there's a sub £10k 996 for sale en route to it, might pop in and have a shuftie out of curiosity).
Do be careful posting links with your postcode in <link>
There's a lot to be said for the wide bodied cars but I do like the more subtlelines of these, a black one overtook me on the M1 last night and it looked superb in the flesh.
(Off to look at an Alfa Brera tomorrow but there's a sub £10k 996 for sale en route to it, might pop in and have a shuftie out of curiosity).
My ears pricked up when you mentioned the Alfa Brera, I now drive a 996 C2 but my last car was an Alfa Brera S, lovely, lovely looking car and no issues with reliability. Just did not have the performance to match the looks, if you do go down the Brera route I would suggest a diesel which you can then get chipped, failing that go for the v6 although fuel consumption maybe an issue then.
P5Nij said:
Been looking at them myself these past few days, I keep coming back to this one...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
There's a lot to be said for the wide bodied cars but I do like the more subtlelines of these, a black one overtook me on the M1 last night and it looked superb in the flesh.
(Off to look at an Alfa Brera tomorrow but there's a sub £10k 996 for sale en route to it, might pop in and have a shuftie out of curiosity).
That's a really nice example, leather could do with a feed and would come up nicely I think. i'm after a manual myselfhttp://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
There's a lot to be said for the wide bodied cars but I do like the more subtlelines of these, a black one overtook me on the M1 last night and it looked superb in the flesh.
(Off to look at an Alfa Brera tomorrow but there's a sub £10k 996 for sale en route to it, might pop in and have a shuftie out of curiosity).
Edited by P5Nij on Tuesday 30th July 16:53
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