Would a CR live with a 6GT3 on track..?
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Depends on drivers in each, but in my experience a well driven one can live with GT3 - they are quite well matched. GT3 pulls away a little on the straights but not by very much, Cayman can carry more speed into corners.
I have a 6.2GT3 and a good mate has a Cayman R PDK - we've been to Silverstone and Bedford together.
A Cayman R with some track mods would be pretty awesome but you can't beat the feel and sound of a 6GT3 IMO!
HTH
Cheers
Simon
I have a 6.2GT3 and a good mate has a Cayman R PDK - we've been to Silverstone and Bedford together.
A Cayman R with some track mods would be pretty awesome but you can't beat the feel and sound of a 6GT3 IMO!
HTH
Cheers
Simon
Totally depends who is driving, what tyres and geo you have and what type of track it is.
I have had both and still have my R.
Most 996 gt3 you see on track now seem to have been made even more track spec.
Do you want to ruin a r on the road to make it track spec ?
You can corner faster and brake later in a R but then you are 60bhp down on the straights.
You cannot get enough neg camber on a r unless you fit gt3 lca or a after market arm.
As all ways a well set up car in the right hand is fast.
At Donny I always over take a few gt3 but then cannot stay with a few GT3's
I have had both and still have my R.
Most 996 gt3 you see on track now seem to have been made even more track spec.
Do you want to ruin a r on the road to make it track spec ?
You can corner faster and brake later in a R but then you are 60bhp down on the straights.
You cannot get enough neg camber on a r unless you fit gt3 lca or a after market arm.
As all ways a well set up car in the right hand is fast.
At Donny I always over take a few gt3 but then cannot stay with a few GT3's
This might help
1999 996 GT3
http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/porsche_996_gt3...
2003 996 GT3 facelift
http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/porsche_996_gt3...
1999 996 GT3
http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/porsche_996_gt3...
2003 996 GT3 facelift
http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/porsche_996_gt3...
sportsandclassic said:
keep it lit said:
mrdemon said:
You can corner faster and brake later in a R
hehehehave you driven that GT3 you had around a track properly ? Brake later and carry more speed, not likely!
I am with Ade on this one.... GT3 all the way.
The actual answer is long and boring.......
Tyres are the limiting factor and so both cars will be close in lap times since each is more capable than the rubber at the 4 corners. The GT3 has better exit and more power (and that power can be provided more quickly) so will however be faster overall. The more a lap allows exit and power to be used, the greater the gap will be.
The reason that one often sees the reverse is simply due to the fact that its easier for a driver to achieve their maximum performance in a Cayman than in a GT3 (note their performance not that of the car).
Put on tyres that allow more to be had from the cars and the gap will open up in favour of the GT3. The GT3 has a more aggressive turn in, better exit and is better under braking. It also has more power. The Cayman is better mid corner. If both cars were able to run at their actual maximum it wouldnt be close at all.
Beyond that, run a cayman hard at the track and it will break. The GT3 will not.
Tyres are the limiting factor and so both cars will be close in lap times since each is more capable than the rubber at the 4 corners. The GT3 has better exit and more power (and that power can be provided more quickly) so will however be faster overall. The more a lap allows exit and power to be used, the greater the gap will be.
The reason that one often sees the reverse is simply due to the fact that its easier for a driver to achieve their maximum performance in a Cayman than in a GT3 (note their performance not that of the car).
Put on tyres that allow more to be had from the cars and the gap will open up in favour of the GT3. The GT3 has a more aggressive turn in, better exit and is better under braking. It also has more power. The Cayman is better mid corner. If both cars were able to run at their actual maximum it wouldnt be close at all.
Beyond that, run a cayman hard at the track and it will break. The GT3 will not.
Edited by fioran0 on Saturday 10th August 00:38
MCSL said:
I never gave much thought to tyres - wasn't there a lot of debate about running a Cayman R on semi/slicks (oil starvation?). I assume this is a big bonus with the GT3 (dry sump)?
Its only the Gen 1 that suffers from this as the Gen 2 has additional scavenge pumps in the heads.This however will solve the problem on a Gen 1 http://www.motordrive.com/acatalog/Suspention.html
fioran0 said:
Beyond that, run a cayman hard at the track and it will break. The GT3 will not.
since the 991 gt3 runs a similar engine to the 3.8dfi albeit improved crank,rods and small end to run higher power is this to going to break?the gen 2 engines are much more sorted than the gen1 especially for track work so a caymanR is no less likely to break than a gt3 with normal track days.those boys across the pond have 100s of hours of racing with no breaks on the gen2Edited by fioran0 on Saturday 10th August 00:38
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