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Nearly everyone here is aware of my 996 turbo rollercoaster - i thought it wasn't fast due to a dud motor, then tried another one and had my heart set on it.
Anyway my friend got his one today and I got to spend nearly 2 hours driving it across the day.
Is the turbo fast? Sure is - it's deceptively fast and it's only if you look at the rear view mirror you realise how fast it is. But...and this a big but...after 1hr of myself constantly driving through various types of road the conclusion I came too was that they are bloody dull.
Seriously they are just too capable, you don't have to care about wheelspin etc, you just plant your foot and it goes. There is no emotion, no holding onto the steering wheel for dear life, no modulating of the power to keep traction, no aural or decent steering feedback - in summary there is no sense of occassion, I might as well have been sitting on the virgin pendolino!!!
For some the 996 turbo will be the ultimate, but I've realised today that I'm a speed demon, but only in the right car which stirs emotion.
I'm going try the 996 gt3 next weekend or just bite the bullet and start looking at italian motors.
Anyway my friend got his one today and I got to spend nearly 2 hours driving it across the day.
Is the turbo fast? Sure is - it's deceptively fast and it's only if you look at the rear view mirror you realise how fast it is. But...and this a big but...after 1hr of myself constantly driving through various types of road the conclusion I came too was that they are bloody dull.
Seriously they are just too capable, you don't have to care about wheelspin etc, you just plant your foot and it goes. There is no emotion, no holding onto the steering wheel for dear life, no modulating of the power to keep traction, no aural or decent steering feedback - in summary there is no sense of occassion, I might as well have been sitting on the virgin pendolino!!!
For some the 996 turbo will be the ultimate, but I've realised today that I'm a speed demon, but only in the right car which stirs emotion.
I'm going try the 996 gt3 next weekend or just bite the bullet and start looking at italian motors.
I sense another thread coming on re the quest for a good GT3....
It's good you got the opportunity to try a turbo out for an extended period of time to at least get a decent first view of what running one would be like and whether it would tick the right boxes.
I was out in mine today, I think I probably drive it slower than my M3 because I am conscious that more than a few seconds on the load pedal results in obscene speeds being achieved. I wanted / needed rear seats, but my kids are now of a height that neither fit in the back in any level of comfort so a two seater is now an option. I need to start thinking about a more exciting daily driver before any changes to the weekend car
It's good you got the opportunity to try a turbo out for an extended period of time to at least get a decent first view of what running one would be like and whether it would tick the right boxes.
I was out in mine today, I think I probably drive it slower than my M3 because I am conscious that more than a few seconds on the load pedal results in obscene speeds being achieved. I wanted / needed rear seats, but my kids are now of a height that neither fit in the back in any level of comfort so a two seater is now an option. I need to start thinking about a more exciting daily driver before any changes to the weekend car
acf69 said:
I sense another thread coming on re the quest for a good GT3....
It's good you got the opportunity to try a turbo out for an extended period of time to at least get a decent first view of what running one would be like and whether it would tick the right boxes.
I was out in mine today, I think I probably drive it slower than my M3 because I am conscious that more than a few seconds on the load pedal results in obscene speeds being achieved. I wanted / needed rear seats, but my kids are now of a height that neither fit in the back in any level of comfort so a two seater is now an option. I need to start thinking about a more exciting daily driver before any changes to the weekend car
If a thread is started please make sure you can afford a GT3 in the first place unlike the last 15 page thread only at the end OP to say he cant afford it.lolIt's good you got the opportunity to try a turbo out for an extended period of time to at least get a decent first view of what running one would be like and whether it would tick the right boxes.
I was out in mine today, I think I probably drive it slower than my M3 because I am conscious that more than a few seconds on the load pedal results in obscene speeds being achieved. I wanted / needed rear seats, but my kids are now of a height that neither fit in the back in any level of comfort so a two seater is now an option. I need to start thinking about a more exciting daily driver before any changes to the weekend car
Could I suggest just as a wild card you try something that I did. I had my heart set on buying a 997 911 Turbo S and had in excess of £60K cash burning a hole in my pocket tried a few and thought the same as you it's just far too accomplished and I would be driving round at warp factor 4 and either die or loose my licence. Whilst in a state of indecision at the OPC saw a Boxster RS60 being taken out by a couple, so later I tried it, I really enjoyed wringing it's neck and the salesman said it was the fastest test drive he had been on for a long time and was a bit pale.
I wasn't too happy with the depreciation side of things with the Turbo so having decided on a secondhand Boxster so I flew up to Newcastle bought an RS60 with Carbon Ceramic brakes for £26K and put the rest into shares.
Nearly a year later I still love the Boxster and I have just put my name down for one of the new Alfa 4C's which I can buy straight out I don't give a hoot about the Boxster's image with some people I like it and may well keep it longer than any car I've owned to date. It might just be worth trying a 3.4S Boxster you never know.
I wasn't too happy with the depreciation side of things with the Turbo so having decided on a secondhand Boxster so I flew up to Newcastle bought an RS60 with Carbon Ceramic brakes for £26K and put the rest into shares.
Nearly a year later I still love the Boxster and I have just put my name down for one of the new Alfa 4C's which I can buy straight out I don't give a hoot about the Boxster's image with some people I like it and may well keep it longer than any car I've owned to date. It might just be worth trying a 3.4S Boxster you never know.
Op I am wondering would you be better placed with an atom/ cater/ even bike. I am relatively young and have had a series of fast cars, from classic to new, vxr vauxhalls, lotus, ferrari, porsche, e30 m3 (why oh why did I sell this) e46 m3 e90 m3 e60 m5, etc you get the idea. I can see the point that you make about the porsche being dull to a certain extent, but to my mind no more so than any of the above. They are all road going cars, but the 996 turbo with right mods would be awesome, yes I have just bought one, but I can guarantee you this, it's the first car I have ever had that I can say is a keeper.
steve singh said:
no emotion, no holding onto the steering wheel for dear life, no modulating of the power to keep traction, no aural
Try one of these, linear power delivery but you have to work it to get near the chassis potential, with PSE sound without equal:
£10 says Cal still misses his.................
Edited by 6C4GTS on Saturday 10th August 23:28
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