£10k 911 Aircooled Targa SC's
£10k 911 Aircooled Targa SC's
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Skyedriver

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23,397 posts

311 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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Am I looking for trouble buying a 3.2 or SC Targa (pre 89 car).
What am I likely to find, what are running costs likely to be and can you get full lap £ diagonal seat belts for the rear?
thanks

Edited by Skyedriver on Monday 19th August 23:19

supersport

4,630 posts

256 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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3.2s and SCs are two different cars, the 3.2 came along in 1983.

Unless the seller is naive a £10k 911 is going to cost. At that point I would expect rust in most if not all the wrong places and that could cost the same again. You need to talk to somebody who knows about these cars. There are entry of guides around.

Go talk to Strasse in Leeds or RPM specialist cars in Knaresborough and get some advice.

Wozy68

5,436 posts

199 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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I dunno, 10k for a targa might be doable. Forget worrying bigh mileage. Like previous poster has stated, the first thing to look for is rust. I highly recommend Adrian Crawfords download on the early 911s. Worth every penny.
Just google him.

Skyedriver

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23,397 posts

311 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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supersport said:
3.2s and SCs are two different cars, the 3.2 came along in 1983.
Sorry got confused.

Basically am older shape 911 Targa is what I was wondering about either the SC or 3.2
Just looking at options for an interesting car that the family might fit into
Always wanted a 911 when I was younger, never scratched the itch

mollytherocker

14,464 posts

238 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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At 10k you are most certainly looking for trouble and will probably find it.

15k and some care should get a decent enough car. But, it will still require some work and of course will continue to do so.

thegoose

8,077 posts

239 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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Definitely doable for close to that budget but you'll meet quite a few frogs in your quest to find your prince.

As an example, we sold in 2009 a 1984 3.2 targa in white that had previously had the sills & kidney bowls replaced, we had Unit 11 go through the car and do everything that they found, which included a new brake caliper, new discs & pads, new dampers (shock absorbers), new bonnet struts and doubtless a few other bits & pieces. The mileage on the odometer was around 115,000 from memory but there wasn't a lot of early history so who knows if it was accurate. We got just under £11,000 for it, the only downside to it was that the gearbox could have done with a rebuild - it was ok if used sypathetically but if it was mine I'd have probably done it for the enhancement in driving pleasure. It was GP white with black pinstripe interior and silver Fuchs alloys and we had a decent profit I. It, even after all the prep work.

We actually had it back last year as the owner hadn't used it at all (off shore diver who worked globally), mileage was only a few hundred higher, our asking price was the same but it was bought by someone who exported it.


For what you're after I'd suggest looking at convertibles too.

Skyedriver

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23,397 posts

311 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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olly22n said:
Check my profile for costs if you buy the wrong car.
Oh dear....

Skyedriver

Original Poster:

23,397 posts

311 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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thegoose said:
Definitely doable for close to that budget but you'll meet quite a few frogs in your quest to find your prince.

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Thanks, I'll avoid the lily pads and look out for the castle.
I did look at a few late 70's early 80's cars back 15 year or so ago and many then were showing signs of corrosion even when fully galvanised. Mid 70's cars were in a terrible state due to non galv. Early cars were quite noisy inside too and thats after Lotus 7 and various MG's!
I've a few different cars on my list, some two seater (another TVR or an Elise) but keep getting hints that "we cannot all get in that". (About 80% of my driving is on my own).
Targa 911 has always appealed and yes I can see the coupe is the better looking and has the more Race pedigree.
Had the 944 on my list but they only seem to be fitted with lap belts in the rear and need a full lap & diag for young son.



supersport

4,630 posts

256 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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They can definitely work to transport the family until they get too big and you can get a Mclaren style buggy under the bonnet, which you can't with a modern car. I think the targa is a good option as the rear is a different profile to the coup so more head room in the back. I think a cab would have less rear room.

I bet there are very few good ones left at your price though. But you do see the odd advert that looks ok. Some owners don't seem to realise that prices have gone up and Goose's example was a couple of years ago. No harm in looking though.

Solarized

442 posts

170 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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IMO it's possible to find what you're after however as has been said proceed with caution and do as much research as possible about these cars. Rust is a major issue. Great cars if you a find a decent one and some do pop up from time to time at what appear to be decent prices.

Fishy Dave

1,125 posts

274 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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I was interested in this one - http://www.911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=4594
Not a targa, and I have been e-mailed loads of photos and spoken to the friendly seller a couple of times. I was looking for an alternative to my Caterham, but decided to hang onto it for now and have bought a Boxster S for my wife.
There is no questions that this particular 911 requires a lot of work with the corrosion, but the seller is sensible about things and says he is open to offers....

Cheers, Dave

mollytherocker

14,464 posts

238 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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Fishy Dave said:
I was interested in this one - http://www.911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=4594
Not a targa, and I have been e-mailed loads of photos and spoken to the friendly seller a couple of times. I was looking for an alternative to my Caterham, but decided to hang onto it for now and have bought a Boxster S for my wife.
There is no questions that this particular 911 requires a lot of work with the corrosion, but the seller is sensible about things and says he is open to offers....

Cheers, Dave
It would be interesting to know what that rust would cost to sort properly as it will be much deeper and widespread than it looks.

My guess is that it would turn into a full body resto and would run into 5 figures.

Swifty Boy

30 posts

185 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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My '77 targa is in for some body work and a full respray at the moment so I am sadly familiar with the cost of remedial work. From that advert, it looks as though the car has only done 14 miles since 2007 so you can expect things to have perished and cracked (CV boots, bushes etc).

If it needs a gearbox rebuild on the 915 you can expect to replace parts and spend £2,500 or more with a specialist. Might as well do it all while you are in there. 4 new tyres required at 500 quid plus.

Rust remediation is a whole new ball game and with kidney bowls, sills, fitting of a NSR panel (assuming the included spare is any good), probably some repairs to the OSR panel or a new one if the NS is that bad, repairs to inner wings etc etc....as mollytherocker says you are well into 5 figures to get this back to being a decent car. Oh and then budget £5k for a glass out respray :-) My advice would be to pay more and get one that has been sorted with photographic evidence and a good history on the mechanical side. I think you have to be even more cautious with a targa as they can leak when left out in the rain.

Having said all that, I really enjoy having a targa - we did a brilliant Euro trip in it last year and it was lovely having the roof off as you feel closer to the scenery...our car is a narrow body 2.7 in arrow blue all chromed up and I love the look of it. As someone said there's more headroom in the back for the kids too.

Andyc4s

36 posts

166 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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so regret selling my 3.2 coupe for 8k 9 years ago, almost as much as not replacing it with a nice white manual 964 c2 for 10k or completly blowing my budget and buying an 964 rs for 19k

think i will kick myself more and more as the years pass

Biggles111

466 posts

292 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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I had the same thoughts as to what to go for, they are all good. In the end I decided to go slightly newer, 964 Targas can be had for close to your budget, and do have the 3 point rear seat belts. I bought one last week and have been very impressed, it takes the kids fine, yet when I want to go for a drive is really cracking. They still rust, but you might stand a better chance of avoiding big body repairs for now. They do have other issues though to check for,so keep your eyes open.

Eporsch had one up for sale for £12k which I was told is basically sound, but could use some paint to make good, might be worth a look.

Do watch the state of the targa roof whichever generation you go for. They can be refurbed, if the underlying frame is sound.

I bought mine intending to run it as a fun car, but feel it is such a cracking car some sensible upgrades/refurbing are
warranted, be warned! They are properly retro, eg putting a key in the door rather than pressing a remote, and a random switch layout, but it is all part of the character, wonderful antidote to today's mundanity.

If you get your prospective purchase checked you will be fine, go for it!

Skyedriver

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23,397 posts

311 months

Sunday 8th September 2013
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Didn't want to start a new thread, does anyone know anything about this car?

http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-Porsche-911-Carrera...

same car on both sites

Thsnk you for any guidance