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pistolp

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1,719 posts

251 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Hi All
There is a lovely C4S for sale at the moment, a 993. It's pretty over priced to be honest, at Paul Stevens. What does everyone make of these?
The C2 looks like better value, that's in grey as opposed to blue.
What are they like to drive? I kist think the C4 is one of the best looking Porsches ever.
J

Dave Sums

274 posts

163 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Everything Paul Stephens sells seems over priced. Great cars I am sure but I usually feel he is chancing his luck a bit with the prices he asks.
I think the widebody 993 looks great especially my new 993 turbo that I bought yesterday from JZM. My 'adventura' green one is heading back to them today, well sorted car and I really enjoyed it last few months as my first 993 turbo but traded up as trying to get myself into a much lower mileage one over coming year. The green one has done 78k and the silver one has some nice Turbo S factory fitted upgrades and 66k so worth the extra £10k for me.




mollytherocker

14,463 posts

238 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Jesus christ, how many porsches have you actually got?? eek

Dave Sums

274 posts

163 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Sure will. Not picking the silver one up for couple weeks as out of the country.
Reckon the green one will just be pulling up on JZM forcourt about now as my brother in law was dropping it off today.

DT398

1,946 posts

177 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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I like that green one and saw it when it was at JZM last time. Somehow older cars can carry the unusual colours a bit better (like that chestnut interior for example) and come across as cool as opposed to "blegh".

I wonder what they will put it up for this time?

Dave Sums

274 posts

163 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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DT398 said:
I like that green one and saw it when it was at JZM last time. Somehow older cars can carry the unusual colours a bit better (like that chestnut interior for example) and come across as cool as opposed to "blegh".

I wonder what they will put it up for this time?
I think similar price as last time as I have not done many miles (about 1500 I think) in it and I spent £500.00 on getting a new alarm and immobiliser fitted so that both key fobs work perfectly. Very very good car and I only had compliments about the green wherever I went. I just sold as I am trying to get a 'keeper' with lower miles so working my way through the field until the right one comes along.

Budweiser

1,110 posts

213 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Never driven one but the silver car looks stunning, congratulations....

DT398

1,946 posts

177 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Dave Sums said:
I think similar price as last time as I have not done many miles (about 1500 I think) in it and I spent £500.00 on getting a new alarm and immobiliser fitted so that both key fobs work perfectly. Very very good car and I only had compliments about the green wherever I went. I just sold as I am trying to get a 'keeper' with lower miles so working my way through the field until the right one comes along.
Thanks. I have to say it's tempting. They seem to re-sell a few 993 Turbos there if you trawl through their cars for sale ads and sold listings. The 993s have been gradually creeping up in price.....

P1ato

351 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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The Paul Stephens car is lovely if you want a 4WD, but I'd rather have a higher mileage car I could have some fun with.

Congrats on the purchase of the JZM car - that has a very special spec and looks fantastic.

jackal

11,251 posts

311 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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pistolp said:
Hi All
There is a lovely C4S for sale at the moment, a 993. It's pretty over priced to be honest, at Paul Stevens. What does everyone make of these?
The C2 looks like better value, that's in grey as opposed to blue.
What are they like to drive? I kist think the C4 is one of the best looking Porsches ever.
J
think i've driven most 993 variants

a basic C2 or an RS is still the best to me

the C4S probably the worst, all the weight of the turbo but none of the grunt, just a bit dull IMO and its the one model that gets flamed on here regularly by people who had a mediocre/bad experience with one

if you must have wdiebody then get the C2s

Magna

810 posts

212 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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jackal said:
the C4S probably the worst, all the weight of the turbo but none of the grunt, just a bit dull IMO and its the one model that gets flamed on here regularly by people who had a mediocre/bad experience with one
Sounds like the 964 3.3 turbo. Gets a rough time from those who had a bad example or just plain keyboard warriors however have you seen how much people want for those now. £65k for the one at Gmund!!

mollytherocker

14,463 posts

238 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Magna said:
jackal said:
the C4S probably the worst, all the weight of the turbo but none of the grunt, just a bit dull IMO and its the one model that gets flamed on here regularly by people who had a mediocre/bad experience with one
Sounds like the 964 3.3 turbo. Gets a rough time from those who had a bad example or just plain keyboard warriors however have you seen how much people want for those now. £65k for the one at Gmund!!
I am failing to see the similarity.

pistolp

Original Poster:

1,719 posts

251 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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I think the green turbo is stunning but I'd personally be put off by the miles, silly I know!

stigmeister

70 posts

197 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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jackal said:
think i've driven most 993 variants

a basic C2 or an RS is still the best to me

the C4S probably the worst, all the weight of the turbo but none of the grunt, just a bit dull IMO and its the one model that gets flamed on here regularly by people who had a mediocre/bad experience with one

if you must have wdiebody then get the C2s
Spot on - couldn't agree more.

mph

2,376 posts

311 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Co-incidentally I've just been looking at an immaculate very low mileage C4S this very afternoon.

Not for sale, it's owned by a collector who has an example of virtually every air-cooled 911 Porsche made.

The C4S is far and away his least favourite and he doesn't rate it at all. "Bloated and sluggish" are the words he used to describe it.

Don't shoot me etc.....

aceparts

3,724 posts

270 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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As a long term owner (oooh, 11 years now) I'd say be more worried about things failing with age - completely disregard mileage as an indicator of wear etc. I had way more issues at 50K miles than at the 70 it's approaching now.

911F

2,941 posts

219 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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I've owned a C2, C2S, C4S and turbo.

C4S was most disappointing to drive.

C2S Was best mix of what I wanted.

But in reality, for me, choosing out of the 4 is like choosing from 4 Miss World contenders... you haven't done bad with what ever you choose

jackal

11,251 posts

311 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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mph said:
Co-incidentally I've just been looking at an immaculate very low mileage C4S this very afternoon.

Not for sale, it's owned by a collector who has an example of virtually every air-cooled 911 Porsche made.

The C4S is far and away his least favourite and he doesn't rate it at all. "Bloated and sluggish" are the words he used to describe it.

Don't shoot me etc.....
Phil Raby said the exact same thing to me when i started looking. He was right.