Metzger engine.
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Hi all, I'm new to Porsche's, can someone explain a bit more about the Metzger engine. I have a 997 turbo gen 1 and I believe it has the above engine.
If I'm correct the 996 turbo has basically the same engine so that's a mezger engine. So is the 997 gen 2 turbo a mezger and what about 997 gen 1 c2s etc?
What's the fuss about?
If I'm correct the 996 turbo has basically the same engine so that's a mezger engine. So is the 997 gen 2 turbo a mezger and what about 997 gen 1 c2s etc?
What's the fuss about?
As far as the 996/997s go, the GT* series and Turbos only had the Mezgers. I think I read somewhere on here that the 997.2 may not have had this engine. No doubt someone will fill in.
The engine block casting is marked with "964 -" - at least on 996 Turbos.
As far as fuss goes, this is mainly only because the non-Mezgers don't have such a hot rep.
The engine block casting is marked with "964 -" - at least on 996 Turbos.
As far as fuss goes, this is mainly only because the non-Mezgers don't have such a hot rep.
Edited by 996TT02 on Wednesday 20th November 17:08
benny 61 said:
Hi all, I'm new to Porsche's, can someone explain a bit more about the Metzger engine. I have a 997 turbo gen 1 and I believe it has the above engine.
If I'm correct the 996 turbo has basically the same engine so that's a mezger engine. So is the 997 gen 2 turbo a mezger and what about 997 gen 1 c2s etc?
What's the fuss about?
The 996 and 997 turbo, GT2 and GT3's all had the Mezger engineIf I'm correct the 996 turbo has basically the same engine so that's a mezger engine. So is the 997 gen 2 turbo a mezger and what about 997 gen 1 c2s etc?
What's the fuss about?
Also, have a read through this thread - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
And this one - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=889...
And this one - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=889...
V8KSN said:
Also, have a read through this thread - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
And this one - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=889...
Good read, thanksAnd this one - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=889...
The mezger engine you are referring to, was based on the GT1 engine from the 1998 Le Mans winning car. Itself, a development of the 964 engine and all of the previous 911 engines. It is up there with the most of the successful racing engines ever built, maybe even the Cosworth DFV.
Of course Hans Mezger designed many more amazing racing engines and is an important part of porsche history as Ferdinand himself!
His engines were reliable, very strong and could be tuned to a very high state.
They didnt sound half bad either!
Of course Hans Mezger designed many more amazing racing engines and is an important part of porsche history as Ferdinand himself!
His engines were reliable, very strong and could be tuned to a very high state.
They didnt sound half bad either!
I don't think Mr Mezger had much, if anything, to do with the GT1 engine. He doesn't mention it in his book and had retired years before. The 3.2 turbocharged GT1 engine is, however, an evolution of his 956/962 engine design - itself an evolution of an earlier design.
A 'Mezger engine' is one that wasn't necessarily designed by Hans Mezger (e.g. 996 GT3, 996 turbo) but is based on one of his earlier designs.
A 'Mezger engine' is one that wasn't necessarily designed by Hans Mezger (e.g. 996 GT3, 996 turbo) but is based on one of his earlier designs.
agtlaw said:
I don't think Mr Mezger had much, if anything, to do with the GT1 engine. He doesn't mention it in his book and had retired years before. The 3.2 turbocharged GT1 engine is, however, an evolution of his 956/962 engine design - itself an evolution of an earlier design.
A 'Mezger engine' is one that wasn't necessarily designed by Hans Mezger (e.g. 996 GT3, 996 turbo) but is based on one of his earlier designs.
Correct. The term Mezger, when applied to the modern GTx cars, refers to the heart of the engine, the block and associated fundamental design or basic architecture.A 'Mezger engine' is one that wasn't necessarily designed by Hans Mezger (e.g. 996 GT3, 996 turbo) but is based on one of his earlier designs.
Edited by mollytherocker on Thursday 21st November 21:32
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