996 Turbo
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Budweiser

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1,110 posts

213 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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I have been offered a 2003 36k coupe, for £27k though this is negotiable . The car has a nice spec including full Porsche fitted aero kit, tiptronic, crested fully electric seats, full leather interior, rear parking sensors etc. seal grey with black interior. Full OPC service history.

I had ,admittedly, a short test drive and it was very fast, stable and quiet but I wasn't overly impressed. I currently have a 996 C4S Cab with a nice spec including a sports exhaust. The cost to change would be in the region of £8K.

The Turbo is a stunningly good looking car with mega performance but whilst my heart says go for it my head says why, when could I use all that power, the car is annoyingly quiet, and the £8K difference will pay for a full rebuild when the time comes.

What to do? FIIK, I have until Monday to decide.....

Jibaro

210 posts

210 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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Hi OP,

Why is your heart saying go for it when you weren't overly impressed with it? True you won't learn much on a short test drive, but if it's not a definite "Yes" then maybe don't bother? Why do you want a turbo, is it just the looks and the on paper performance? Your head is telling you to keep the money in case of possible future expenses on your car, but maybe your head is saying this because your heart really isn't taken with the turbo.

I have a x50 manual, and it is astounding, the noise is pretty awesome with it's Tubi exhaust, the acceleration is breathtaking and truly exciting, and the car steers rides and handles sublimely. You really have to hang on when the turbos spool up and the effect on passengers is always hilarious, I love it! But on my first drive I don't think I got it barely on boost because I was slightly intimidated by it so it probably drove no different to a C4S, maybe that is what happened to you leading to an underwhelming test drive. Ask the owner to take you out instead and show you a little of what it can do. (If you aren't impressed with the performance it could be down on power which is not uncommon as hoses and joins in the turbo system can develop leaks, turbo actuators get stuck on little-used cars, and other age related things can deteriorate.) Then work out how much more it will cost you to run and maintain, think about getting it inspected properly as the repair bills can be a bit more than a C4S. It's a great colour (I'm biased) and the mileage is good, do a bit of soul searching as it could be a good opportunity if the car is straight and the price can be negotiated down like you say. Go for it if you really do want what the turbo offers, or if you want to tick it off your bucket list. But maybe also think about a newer normally aspirated version of what you have if that floats your boat better.

Hope this helps, all the best with it

mollytherocker

14,463 posts

238 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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All I can say is that I would only spend 8k if I really needed or wanted something.

Its sounds to me like you prefer your C4S.

Lowtimer

4,293 posts

197 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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That#s what it sounds like to me too. And any old 996 that is new to you is going to end up needing some money put into it, especially a Turbo, so it will be more than 8K. Keep your C4S and keep the cash in an engine rebuild fund (chances are it will be fine anyway).

balamory

99 posts

152 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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Go for the Turbo ......

g7jhp

7,033 posts

267 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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C4S is a stunning car.

But if you want performance go for the turbo it's in a different league.

Price sounds good, colour sounds good.


Callughan

6,313 posts

221 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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Looks like you should keep the C4S.

There have been many debates on here on which is better.

I would base it on your gut reaction.

IMI A

9,997 posts

230 months

Sunday 5th January 2014
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Callughan said:
Looks like you should keep the C4S.

There have been many debates on here on which is better.

I would base it on your gut reaction.
I'd agree stick not twist. Your c4S with sports exhaust will be missed with turbos sounding worse than vacuum cleaner.

Moosh

1,122 posts

250 months

Sunday 5th January 2014
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IMI A said:
I'd agree stick not twist. Your c4S with sports exhaust will be missed with turbos sounding worse than vacuum cleaner.
With a after market exhaust the turbo can sound very good. I have europipes fitted on mine and the sound is intoxicating.

Mr10secs

383 posts

264 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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IMI A said:
I'd agree stick not twist. Your c4S with sports exhaust will be missed with turbos sounding worse than vacuum cleaner.
Fastest Dyson you will ever see though!!! Mine has a Ti exhaust and sports cats and everyone loves it, they say the best thing is it doesnt sound like a Porsche !!!


Budweiser

Original Poster:

1,110 posts

213 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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Well I spoke to the seller and turned the car down. A number of factors really, didn't want Tiptronic, lack of a sports exhaust and I don't want to spend the money for an after market one, don't need the superb power of the Turbo as I prefer to ring the neck of mine (more fun IMO) finally I love my C4S and have convinced myself I have saved £8K lol

The car is a fantastic example and for about £27k it will make someone very happy....

Thanks everyone for your posts.....

911rob

75 posts

177 months

Wednesday 8th January 2014
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Budweiser said:
I have been offered a 2003 36k coupe, for £27k though this is negotiable . The car has a nice spec including full Porsche fitted aero kit, tiptronic, crested fully electric seats, full leather interior, rear parking sensors etc. seal grey with black interior. Full OPC service history.

I had ,admittedly, a short test drive and it was very fast, stable and quiet but I wasn't overly impressed. I currently have a 996 C4S Cab with a nice spec including a sports exhaust. The cost to change would be in the region of £8K.

The Turbo is a stunningly good looking car with mega performance but whilst my heart says go for it my head says why, when could I use all that power, the car is annoyingly quiet, and the £8K difference will pay for a full rebuild when the time comes.

What to do? FIIK, I have until Monday to decide.....
Think you answered your own question,stay with your c4s,996 turbo engine alone is why i chose the turbo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-pYen94aPc



Edited by 911rob on Wednesday 8th January 21:14

cheshire911

45 posts

169 months

Thursday 16th January 2014
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It is good to see someone doing what is right for them! I was in a quandry - the usual $s versus Turbo. I chose the Turbo and bought a manual X50 ,low mileage example. Wouldn't swap it for anything right now - still on cloud 9 - 18 months after purchase.

The C4S is a nice car - the broad turbo-body sets it off nicely. Enjoy yours for many more years.

balamory

99 posts

152 months

Thursday 16th January 2014
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I believe the turbo engine is far superior to the c4's'....for the few extra pounds its worth getting into a turbo.

Adam B

29,715 posts

283 months

Thursday 16th January 2014
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Main advantage of turbo is performance so if you don't think you will use the extra then keep the C4S. Would have jumped at that turbo if it was manual

Budweiser

Original Poster:

1,110 posts

213 months

Friday 17th January 2014
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Had it been a manual? I understand why people want/have the Turbo I'm just more at home with the N/A. I've just got home from a 50 mile drive and loved every minute of it. I have the budget for. Gen 2 997 S but just don't see the point for me but I never say never (ok I just did but you know what I mean). Have a good weekend all....

jonamv8

3,280 posts

195 months

Friday 17th January 2014
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Is your mates turbo adverised anywhere spec sounds good to me

Budweiser

Original Poster:

1,110 posts

213 months

Saturday 18th January 2014
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Not that I am aware of. Pm me your contact details and I will pass them onto him if you are interested. It is a Tiptronic and that seems to put some people off?

JNG1

72 posts

190 months

Saturday 18th January 2014
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I used to have a c4s 996 And looked at the turbo variant. I felt that the TT was a bit underwhelming, as in it had one trick (albeit a good one) - its straight line grunt. At the end of the day it didn't feel enough of a step up. I loved the 996 c4s I had, one of the best looking cars on the road, but You probably appreciate this already but any 996 now feels archaic particularly in terms of the interior. My advice would be to get into any 997 and a TT if you have the money. Also watch out with any 996tt- almost invariably they have been "tuned" or otherwise pi..Ed about with.

Moosh

1,122 posts

250 months

Saturday 18th January 2014
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JNG1 said:
I felt that the TT was a bit underwhelming,
Maybe you should of taken it out of first gear laugh

JNG1 said:
one trick (albeit a good one) - its straight line grunt.
The turbo is just as capable if not more so than the C4s in a straight line and round the corners.