997.1, keep and add the miles or trade for 997.2?
997.1, keep and add the miles or trade for 997.2?
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RiccardoG

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1,754 posts

301 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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I've recently come to the realisation that the best way for me to enjoy my 911 (997) is on road trips to the continent (ie: Alps). I enjoy these more than weekend drives in UK, track days, shows etc.

My car is now on almost 58k miles, its a 2006 C4S. I love the colour/spec and its in great condition with everything working etc, no work needed at the moment.

However, I've been considering selling it while it still has 'saleable mileage' and retains some value. I would then add ~£15k and get a Gen 2 car with lower miles (and, big plus, the more reliable 9A1 engine).

On the one hand, I love my 997 and don't particularly want to sell it. On the other hand, I'm concerned of the potential engine issues rearing their head as I pile on the miles coupled with the fact that a "high miler" will be worth considerably less.

Would welcome any thoughts!

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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RiccardoG said:
I've recently come to the realisation that the best way for me to enjoy my 911 (997) is on road trips to the continent (ie: Alps). I enjoy these more than weekend drives in UK, track days, shows etc.

My car is now on almost 58k miles, its a 2006 C4S. I love the colour/spec and its in great condition with everything working etc, no work needed at the moment.

However, I've been considering selling it while it still has 'saleable mileage' and retains some value. I would then add ~£15k and get a Gen 2 car with lower miles (and, big plus, the more reliable 9A1 engine).

On the one hand, I love my 997 and don't particularly want to sell it. On the other hand, I'm concerned of the potential engine issues rearing their head as I pile on the miles coupled with the fact that a "high miler" will be worth considerably less.

Would welcome any thoughts!
I am in a similar quandary. Fortunately I actually prefer driving the 997.1 over the 997.2. And since we love the spec of ours we are going to keep it. If the engine lets go, then off to Hartech for full Monty rebuild, and still got change to spare from upgrading to 997.2.
It's a keeper

jsb

138 posts

227 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Same position. Keeping it and when things wear out, replacing with more track focussed items ie ohlins suspension.

FeelingLucky

1,183 posts

193 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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I'm kind of the exact opposite of the above poster, I MUCH prefered the Gen2, I think it's a large step from the Gen1 in every respect.

I only went for a test drive to see for myself the differences, and I was so blown away, I did the deal and bought the car.

David W.

1,950 posts

238 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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C4S cab on 55 plate, 68k miles and in same situation as OP. I've decided to wait and try a 991 manual shifter when I see a S/H one. If I don't get on with the new 7 speed box then at that point look for newish Gen2 manual. I had a 991 PDK for a weekend and as good as it was still prefere stick shift.
I'm not worried about my 911 carring mileage but at this time could not see the benefit from spending £30k+ on something very similar to what I already have in the drive.

Better to spend it on an addition such as. 993, or early Aston V8V IMO

dw

Carl_Docklands

15,831 posts

291 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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I would trade for a Gen2, it is the pinnacle.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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FeelingLucky said:
I'm kind of the exact opposite of the above poster, I MUCH prefered the Gen2, I think it's a large step from the Gen1 in every respect.

I only went for a test drive to see for myself the differences, and I was so blown away, I did the deal and bought the car.
Perhaps I should try another one - I really didn't notice much difference on the road, but thought the engine had lost some of its character.

mollytherocker

14,463 posts

238 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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drmark said:
Perhaps I should try another one - I really didn't notice much difference on the road, but thought the engine had lost some of its character.
Ha ha, it has indeed lost a few of the M97 'characteristics'! biggrin


IMI A

9,997 posts

230 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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drmark said:
FeelingLucky said:
I'm kind of the exact opposite of the above poster, I MUCH prefered the Gen2, I think it's a large step from the Gen1 in every respect.

I only went for a test drive to see for myself the differences, and I was so blown away, I did the deal and bought the car.
Perhaps I should try another one - I really didn't notice much difference on the road, but thought the engine had lost some of its character.
Yep engine quieter on gen 2. No point to change unless you like PDK. Also think the gen 1 is prettier IMO. I'd stick - silly to spend £15k + to changeover for a very similar car. OP - drive the wheels off it and take it to 200k miles!

£8k at Hartech for a rebuild not the end of the world

alfaspiderman2

1,136 posts

248 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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keep the 997.1 and stick the money in the bank for potential problems....but I don't believe racking up the mileage necessarily equals problems


fastgerman

2,001 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Yep stay with the 997.1 - looks better, sounds better, cheaper and you'll still have change after a rebuild vs trading to a gen 2.

Mine will go at some point this year but I'm changing for a different type of car.

burman

361 posts

242 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Carl_Docklands said:
I would trade for a Gen2, it is the pinnacle.
Was in exactly the same position as the OP just before Christmas as my OPC warranty was about to expire on my immaculate 32,000 mile 997 C2s and I then saw a 22,000 mile 59 reg GEN2 C2S at OPC Tonbridge.
Car was very similar spec to mine except for Bose cd player and self dimming mirror, which were not deal breakers as the car is as new with new tyres, good brakes, and the warranty.
To cut the story short, did the deal after a test drive and am as pleased as punch ,car is 25% better in every way especially ride quality , but do agree that engine is very different to gen1-- more overall grunt in gen 2 but not as sonorous as earlier car especially lower in the rev range.
Will be looking to keep car for 3 years until I see a Gen2 GTS or GT3 for £40 to £45k.

Bubba Zanetti

739 posts

176 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Values of the 997.2 are only set to head one way. North!

Last of the 911's with proper steering, the last of the 911's with a proper manual gearbox (none of this 7 speed lunacy).

Excluding the 996 and 997 GT/Turbo models the 997.2 is the only one of the water cooled models with engine internals NOT made of Cadbury's diary milk. The less said about the 991 model the better!

Trade up today before it is too late. Then sit back, put your feet up, light that cigar and wear a smug grin safe in the knowledge you've got the pick of the modern range.

David W.

1,950 posts

238 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Bubba Zanetti said:
The less said about the 991 model the better!
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Care to elaborate?


IMI A

9,997 posts

230 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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David W. said:
Bubba Zanetti said:
The less said about the 991 model the better!
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Care to elaborate?
Its as big as a Jumbo.

David W.

1,950 posts

238 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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IMI A said:
Its as big as a Jumbo.
I managed to pilot one for a couple of days without getting it wedged in anywhere. But agree they are getting big enough. Cayman is the answer if you want smaller I guess.
dw

burman

361 posts

242 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Bubba Zanetti said:
Values of the 997.2 are only set to head one way. North!

Last of the 911's with proper steering, the last of the 911's with a proper manual gearbox (none of this 7 speed lunacy).

Excluding the 996 and 997 GT/Turbo models the 997.2 is the only one of the water cooled models with engine internals NOT made of Cadbury's diary milk. The less said about the 991 model the better!

Trade up today before it is too late. Then sit back, put your feet up, light that cigar and wear a smug grin safe in the knowledge you've got the pick of the modern range.
Hope you are right Bubba! Should have added mine is a manual with heated sport seats which took a little finding as a lot of cars have PDK which is perfectly ok if you do a lot of town driving.

Johnniem

2,753 posts

252 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Sell the 997, buy a Cayman S and upgrade the power. Now that's a plan! Also, you'll have more space for luggage and a very quick car that runs on rails, no?

wink

IMI A

9,997 posts

230 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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David W. said:
IMI A said:
Its as big as a Jumbo.
I managed to pilot one for a couple of days without getting it wedged in anywhere. But agree they are getting big enough. Cayman is the answer if you want smaller I guess.
dw
Agreed they're lovely but not a compact sports car anymore. Cayman closest to original Porsche DNA. Only 1/3rd of Porsche production was sports cars for Porsche last year. Pannys and Cayenne are where all the profits are so original DNA really wearing thin!

Bubba Zanetti

739 posts

176 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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David W. said:
Care to elaborate?
Personally I think it quite a large car now. Too large for what I use it for.

I use mine as a weekend toy so prefer the 6sp manual in the 997 rather than the 7 speed or PDK alternative.