Car break in - gotta love London
Car break in - gotta love London
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ORD

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18,197 posts

156 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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My car was "broken into" last night. It is the 3rd time in a year that my (or my wife's) car has been broken into.

The weird part is this: there is no damage to the car. Before anyone says "You didnt lock it", I am 100% certain that it was locked. I check every time I walk past it, let alone leave it after driving :-) (You do this when your other car has been broken into twice in the last few months.)

I have done a bit of interweb research and it seems that there are clever little electronic devices that can unlock keyless entry systems. My question is this: should I get my keys changed or would that make no difference? Could the crooks now make a "full" key for the car and drive it off?

ORD

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18,197 posts

156 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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My car was "broken into" last night. 2010 Cayman. It is the 3rd time in a year that my (or my wife's) car has been broken into.

The weird part is this: there is no damage to the car. Before anyone says "You didnt lock it", I am 100% certain that it was locked. I check every time I walk past it, let alone leave it after driving :-) (You do this when your other car has been broken into twice in the last few months.) In any event, it locks automatically after 10 seconds.

I have not driven it since Friday although I did have to use the key fob while cleaning it over the weekend (because otherwise it locks and unlocks itself when I have the boot open, etc).

I have done a bit of interweb research and it seems that there are clever little electronic devices that can unlock keyless entry systems. My question is this: should I get my keys changed or would that make no difference? Could the crooks now make a "full" key for the car and drive it off?

Session8

145 posts

170 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Is there any chance that where ever you leave your keys at night is just within range of the keyless entry?

ORD

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Wednesday 5th February 2014
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I imagine that it is within range. Probably. But it wouldnt matter, would it? Even if someone went and pressed the button (and nobody would have done in the middle of the night!), the car would just lock itself again 10 seconds later.

markiii

4,289 posts

223 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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what car is it?

ORD

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18,197 posts

156 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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2010 Cayman S.

JimmyConwayNW

3,632 posts

154 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Was anything taken?


ORD

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Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Nothing to take. Things just messed about - all the compartments opened (and left open); front and back boots not closed properly; receipts on the floor.

Gusto

608 posts

262 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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I've no idea what your key is like... but my keyless entry (LR) only works within a foot of the door... Also, when cars have "unlocked themselves" on me in the past it has been when I have had the key in my pocket and sat down and something in my pocket has held the button down long enough to over-ride the auto re-locking. Good luck with it.

Now I've read your above bit about hatches being open it sounds a bit more dodgy. Maybe looking for a satnav/portable steal-ables?

Edited by Gusto on Wednesday 5th February 08:54

ORD

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156 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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I'm pretty sure that it was exactly that - someone looking for expensive electronic stuff and/or luggage. My only concern is that the system used to open the car must have been fairly sophisticated, which is why I am wondering whether or not to get the car and my keys re-programmed so that it cannot be driven off (assuming the person who broke in now has the code for my key and can get past the immobiliser using that).

AJB

856 posts

244 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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ORD said:
I have done a bit of interweb research and it seems that there are clever little electronic devices that can unlock keyless entry systems.
ORD said:
Session8 said:
Is there any chance that where ever you leave your keys at night is just within range of the keyless entry?
I imagine that it is within range. Probably. But it wouldnt matter, would it?
ORD said:
Nothing to take. Things just messed about - all the compartments opened (and left open); front and back boots not closed properly; receipts on the floor.
I'm confused. So you park it in range of the key? So anybody could unlock it, have a quick look through the glovebox for sat nav, cash or phone, and then leave it? Sometimes they leave it a mess, this time they shut the glovebox and the door so you couldn't tell they'd been. Or am I missing something...

ORD

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Wednesday 5th February 2014
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The key is in my house with me. So unless my wife ransacked my car in the middle of the night, I am not sure that the location of the key is relevant :-)

ORD

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Wednesday 5th February 2014
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It's a key fob - you have to press the button. Maybe "keyless entry" isnt what I mean. Sorry! I now understand the confusion!

AJB

856 posts

244 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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ORD said:
It's a key fob - you have to press the button. Maybe "keyless entry" isnt what I mean. Sorry! I now understand the confusion!
Ah ok! Nothing useful to add then, other than that at least in VW group cars the engine immobiliser is very separate and harder to code than the door locks.

ORD

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Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Thanks, AJB. That is helpful.

ShaunTheSheep

951 posts

184 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Book in at the OPC to get the latest firmware installed for the security control unit. Might help, might not.

If they could take it, id guess they already would have. Rather than leave you time to put up cctv and what not or even just move the car into secure storage. That said, a stop lock is only £50 and youll get half that back via ebay

ORD

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Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Cheers.

993AL

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247 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Have you ruled out either you or somebody in your household pressing the button by accident from within your house, assuming you're close enough to the car?

ORD

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Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Yep. It happened overnight while we were asleep. I'm told that there is nothing that can be done so no point taking the car into an OPC.

thegoose

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239 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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993AL said:
Have you ruled out either you or somebody in your household pressing the button by accident from within your house, assuming you're close enough to the car?
Highly unlikely - nearly all alarm systems are set to automatically re-lock 30 seconds after being unlocked if a door's not been opened.