Europipes/996 Turbo exhaust options
Discussion
Right peeps,
I miss the growl of my PSE on my c2 and seriously considering my options for an exhaust upgrade on my turbo.
Been looking at Europipes which look nice, anyone got any first hand experience of these, do they sound good?
Other options also looking at speed tech which look very nice indeed but then I would have the hassle of getting that shipped over from US, again does anyone have an first hand experience with these?
I know miltek are an option but my dad has one on his turbo and too quiet for my liking!!
Also if I go down speed tech or europipe route I would need to get a remap independently as opposed to by the company fitting the exhaust.
What re maps are there that people have used and just as a ball park if I have the re map done separately how much I am looking at for this?
Any other alternatives/options to the three companies I have mentioned above?
I miss the growl of my PSE on my c2 and seriously considering my options for an exhaust upgrade on my turbo.
Been looking at Europipes which look nice, anyone got any first hand experience of these, do they sound good?
Other options also looking at speed tech which look very nice indeed but then I would have the hassle of getting that shipped over from US, again does anyone have an first hand experience with these?
I know miltek are an option but my dad has one on his turbo and too quiet for my liking!!
Also if I go down speed tech or europipe route I would need to get a remap independently as opposed to by the company fitting the exhaust.
What re maps are there that people have used and just as a ball park if I have the re map done separately how much I am looking at for this?
Any other alternatives/options to the three companies I have mentioned above?
I have just fitted a Kline Innovation to my 997.1 Turbo. Its a very nicely made product perfect fit and sensible price £1650 + vat . There are two UK dealers Ninemeister and TopGear both can sort you out with a suitable map. Check out the Kline website for more details definitely worth consideration as its a clever crossover design.
Do a search and you will find lots and lots of posts on this subject.
I have Europipes on mine and they do sound good and are built to a high standard. They are expensive compared to some others available on the market so you may want to try and hear some before purchase. I originally had the Europipes fitted at the same time as a remap to 520bhp, but recently have upped the power to 673bhp with the same pipes. If you are near kent/Dartford way you are welcome to hear mine.
I have Europipes on mine and they do sound good and are built to a high standard. They are expensive compared to some others available on the market so you may want to try and hear some before purchase. I originally had the Europipes fitted at the same time as a remap to 520bhp, but recently have upped the power to 673bhp with the same pipes. If you are near kent/Dartford way you are welcome to hear mine.
Thanks for the recommendations so far.
I stumbled across carnewal who mod original exhaust systems, they give you one of their modded systems in exchange you give them your exhaust system. Looking like a good option for Me, I been speaking to Bert@carnewal who has been very helpful and quoted 1795 Eur all in fitted at his shop so a cheeky road trip to Belgium might be on the cards!
I stumbled across carnewal who mod original exhaust systems, they give you one of their modded systems in exchange you give them your exhaust system. Looking like a good option for Me, I been speaking to Bert@carnewal who has been very helpful and quoted 1795 Eur all in fitted at his shop so a cheeky road trip to Belgium might be on the cards!
MrC986 said:
if you are going with the Carnewal option, l have a friend with a 996 3.6 with replacement boxes that sounds great & another who had boxes & cats on his 996 turbo....both were very pleased with his 'witch craft'!
Thanks Mr C good to know, I haven't heard any bad reviews they seem to have a good reputable reputation. Right peeps just returned home from my road trip to Belgium.
First off first class service from Gert@Carnewal lovely guy, very welcoming, knowledgeable and nothing was too much hassle even if I may have had some stupid questions for him in the various emails we exchanged before i took the plunge and took the car to him..
So set off Wednesday morning got to Carnewal at around lunchtime dropped the car off left it with Gert for the day and headed to Bruge for an overnight stay before heading back to collect the car this morning..
Now the exhaust what an improvement in sound, got a lot more meatier growl on start up. Once you give it some can really hear the turbos kicking in/spooling and it has a more raspy note with a bit of snap - difficult to describe and a lot different to PSE on my previous C2 but then from the various discussions it became apparent that the sounds were going to be like chalk and cheese..
Performance wise Gert reckoned it was good for at least another 15bhp now I am no expert and in all honesty I cant definitively tell if it is making a massive difference as before it was fitted flooring it was like all hell breaking loose and it still is!!
In summary very pleased I now have a better sounding turbo which was what I wanted - wasn't fussed about massive performance gains as the turbo is more than adequately powered as it is and I didn't want to go into the 3k ish territory for an exhaust/remap.
I would highly recommend Carnewal and in my opinion this exhaust option is definitely a decent alternative to the more expensive alternatives out there.
First off first class service from Gert@Carnewal lovely guy, very welcoming, knowledgeable and nothing was too much hassle even if I may have had some stupid questions for him in the various emails we exchanged before i took the plunge and took the car to him..
So set off Wednesday morning got to Carnewal at around lunchtime dropped the car off left it with Gert for the day and headed to Bruge for an overnight stay before heading back to collect the car this morning..
Now the exhaust what an improvement in sound, got a lot more meatier growl on start up. Once you give it some can really hear the turbos kicking in/spooling and it has a more raspy note with a bit of snap - difficult to describe and a lot different to PSE on my previous C2 but then from the various discussions it became apparent that the sounds were going to be like chalk and cheese..
Performance wise Gert reckoned it was good for at least another 15bhp now I am no expert and in all honesty I cant definitively tell if it is making a massive difference as before it was fitted flooring it was like all hell breaking loose and it still is!!
In summary very pleased I now have a better sounding turbo which was what I wanted - wasn't fussed about massive performance gains as the turbo is more than adequately powered as it is and I didn't want to go into the 3k ish territory for an exhaust/remap.
I would highly recommend Carnewal and in my opinion this exhaust option is definitely a decent alternative to the more expensive alternatives out there.
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