TVR t350c To 997 cS or c4s??????
Discussion
Hi all,
looks like the time has come to move on, we have a little lad now 2 years old, I am looking to replace my t350c which i love with a 997 just a few questions:
At 6ft4" tall will I fit in a 997?
Kids do they fit? dose the car work as a three seater? my wife is 5ft4" would she still have room in the front?
and any one ever driven there 997 to a skiing holiday? dose it need to be a C4 to cope with snow???? really fancy road tripping to the alps.
Any one swooped a TVR for a 997?
looks like the time has come to move on, we have a little lad now 2 years old, I am looking to replace my t350c which i love with a 997 just a few questions:
At 6ft4" tall will I fit in a 997?
Kids do they fit? dose the car work as a three seater? my wife is 5ft4" would she still have room in the front?
and any one ever driven there 997 to a skiing holiday? dose it need to be a C4 to cope with snow???? really fancy road tripping to the alps.
Any one swooped a TVR for a 997?
I'm 6'6" and fit just fine. I'm a slim 18stone though. I can imagine if you're much bigger or holding a lot of weight in the midsection then it'll get tight.
No sunroof on mine so headroom is good.
Your wife should have plenty of room (mine is approx 5'6" and she has leg room to spare) with the child behind her.
You've got no chance of fitting one behind you though.
Winter tyres will take care of snow whether 2 or 4wd, unless it's deep in which case the car will become a useless snow plow.
Obviously all things being equal 4 driven wheels in snow is better than 2 but with appropriate tyres and in any condition you're actually able to drive the car you'll be fine in either iteration. Drive both and see which you prefer. That'd be the only factor in my decision making.
No sunroof on mine so headroom is good.
Your wife should have plenty of room (mine is approx 5'6" and she has leg room to spare) with the child behind her.
You've got no chance of fitting one behind you though.
Winter tyres will take care of snow whether 2 or 4wd, unless it's deep in which case the car will become a useless snow plow.
Obviously all things being equal 4 driven wheels in snow is better than 2 but with appropriate tyres and in any condition you're actually able to drive the car you'll be fine in either iteration. Drive both and see which you prefer. That'd be the only factor in my decision making.
Edited by f1ashgordon on Thursday 20th February 13:31
Ron98 said:
Any one swooped a TVR for a 997?
I swapped from a Tuscan 4.3 (TVR Power rebuild) to a 997.1 GT3. It obviously wasn't as fast or light as the TVR, but it was a lot better put together. Also much easier to drive quickly, and it made a lovely noise rev'ing toward 9000rpm.After a year or so I swapped that for a 996 Turbo S, so I could put my young son in the back, and free up some cash to move house. Now the Turbo is back to being almost as quick as the Tuscan, but certainly goes around corners a lot better. My point of caution would be that neither car offers anything like the same sense of occasion as the Tuscan, nor the Griff I owned before it. However the trade-off is much better usability, and less time spent working on the car to keep it in top condition; I can now appreciate the TVR was like owning a classic car, albeit one built in 2003. The Porsche's are/were just as usable as my everyday BMW, but they're a lot more fun. An excellent compromise, I think.
I still miss the TVRs, but I don't have the funds or garage space to keep lots of cars for special occasions only! Buy the 997, and revel in its status as the sports car for all seasons.
Pete
Thanks every one,
I swooped my Exgige for the TVR and have missed the feel of "GRIP" going round a corner but the idler was to go to places with Kel like spar as I do fit in the t350c. And for the money she's got to be one of the best in the country and I tell you now if I start her up I will not be selling her ever untill the head takes over again.
Anther good point is there holding there price, I know I will max my self out on a 997 to get the best I can at the time I am hopping I should have 35K, I hope to get a keeper then in my eye's I have not lost any thing. I feel like the tiv's fast but way to fast for my talent just looking for that 80 mph round some tight corners that stick a smile on the face, and if we are going to good wood all 3 of us can get in a cruse down there and not have to take the Astra.
Thanks for the addvice. Just on the off chance dose any one live in the North West??? Will show you my one, so I can have a look at yours owwww arrrr.
I swooped my Exgige for the TVR and have missed the feel of "GRIP" going round a corner but the idler was to go to places with Kel like spar as I do fit in the t350c. And for the money she's got to be one of the best in the country and I tell you now if I start her up I will not be selling her ever untill the head takes over again.
Anther good point is there holding there price, I know I will max my self out on a 997 to get the best I can at the time I am hopping I should have 35K, I hope to get a keeper then in my eye's I have not lost any thing. I feel like the tiv's fast but way to fast for my talent just looking for that 80 mph round some tight corners that stick a smile on the face, and if we are going to good wood all 3 of us can get in a cruse down there and not have to take the Astra.
Thanks for the addvice. Just on the off chance dose any one live in the North West??? Will show you my one, so I can have a look at yours owwww arrrr.
mr pg said:
I two sets of golf clubs, so a pretty useable car I think.
There's the problem. Buy a Porsche and start talking about golf.Seriously though, I'd thought about chopping mine in for a 997 C4S at around the £35k price point. However it would depreciate. I decided I would need to go for a Gen2 car with the stronger engine + PSE for some fun. Not that I'm going to...
Thanks mate, 6ft4" and built like a Racing Snake This all sounds good. been looking in to things. The Gen one cars seem to have a bad rep for all this Bore Scoring but speaking to the local dealer in Kendal and a independent Harbor (realy good lads) it seems to be over blown. PLUS the AA warranty for 10k cover for £750 is brill.
f1ashgordon said:
I'm 6'6" and fit just fine. I'm a slim 18stone though. I can imagine if you're much bigger or holding a lot of weight in the midsection then it'll get tight.
No sunroof on mine so headroom is good.
Your wife should have plenty of room (mine is approx 5'6" and she has leg room to spare) with the child behind her.
You've got no chance of fitting one behind you though.
Winter tyres will take care of snow whether 2 or 4wd, unless it's deep in which case the car will become a useless snow plow.
Obviously all things being equal 4 driven wheels in snow is better than 2 but with appropriate tyres and in any condition you're actually able to drive the car you'll be fine in either iteration. Drive both and see which you prefer. That'd be the only factor in my decision making.
No sunroof on mine so headroom is good.
Your wife should have plenty of room (mine is approx 5'6" and she has leg room to spare) with the child behind her.
You've got no chance of fitting one behind you though.
Winter tyres will take care of snow whether 2 or 4wd, unless it's deep in which case the car will become a useless snow plow.
Obviously all things being equal 4 driven wheels in snow is better than 2 but with appropriate tyres and in any condition you're actually able to drive the car you'll be fine in either iteration. Drive both and see which you prefer. That'd be the only factor in my decision making.
Edited by f1ashgordon on Thursday 20th February 13:31
pete said:
Ron98 said:
Any one swooped a TVR for a 997?
I swapped from a Tuscan 4.3 (TVR Power rebuild) to a 997.1 GT3. It obviously wasn't as fast or light as the TVR, but it was a lot better put together. Also much easier to drive quickly, and it made a lovely noise rev'ing toward 9000rpm.After a year or so I swapped that for a 996 Turbo S, so I could put my young son in the back, and free up some cash to move house. Now the Turbo is back to being almost as quick as the Tuscan, but certainly goes around corners a lot better. My point of caution would be that neither car offers anything like the same sense of occasion as the Tuscan, nor the Griff I owned before it. However the trade-off is much better usability, and less time spent working on the car to keep it in top condition; I can now appreciate the TVR was like owning a classic car, albeit one built in 2003. The Porsche's are/were just as usable as my everyday BMW, but they're a lot more fun. An excellent compromise, I think.
I still miss the TVRs, but I don't have the funds or garage space to keep lots of cars for special occasions only! Buy the 997, and revel in its status as the sports car for all seasons.
Pete
I'm 6ft5 and fit very comfortably in my 997 (a C4S Gen1). When shopping I noticed that the sunroof didn't make much of a difference.
I also noticed that the sport seats (you can recognise them by the extra "wings" just under the shoulders) are less comfortable for me as they pushed by back in a strange way, I went for the standard seats (with embossed crests, of course
).
In terms of skiing, winter tyres (Nokians) fitted last year and have been on a few skiing trips, roof rack and all. Mind you, can't see a family of 3 fitting that comfortably, especially if you all have your own skiing boots to take! As mentioned above, too much snow and you won't get vey far.
A pic from last year to whet you appettite!
I also noticed that the sport seats (you can recognise them by the extra "wings" just under the shoulders) are less comfortable for me as they pushed by back in a strange way, I went for the standard seats (with embossed crests, of course
).In terms of skiing, winter tyres (Nokians) fitted last year and have been on a few skiing trips, roof rack and all. Mind you, can't see a family of 3 fitting that comfortably, especially if you all have your own skiing boots to take! As mentioned above, too much snow and you won't get vey far.
A pic from last year to whet you appettite!
RiccardoG said:
I'm 6ft5 and fit very comfortably in my 997 (a C4S Gen1). When shopping I noticed that the sunroof didn't make much of a difference.
I also noticed that the sport seats (you can recognise them by the extra "wings" just under the shoulders) are less comfortable for me as they pushed by back in a strange way, I went for the standard seats (with embossed crests, of course ).
In terms of skiing, winter tyres (Nokians) fitted last year and have been on a few skiing trips, roof rack and all. Mind you, can't see a family of 3 fitting that comfortably, especially if you all have your own skiing boots to take! As mentioned above, too much snow and you won't get vey far.
A pic from last year to whet you appettite!
Well this pic has sold it for me!I also noticed that the sport seats (you can recognise them by the extra "wings" just under the shoulders) are less comfortable for me as they pushed by back in a strange way, I went for the standard seats (with embossed crests, of course
).In terms of skiing, winter tyres (Nokians) fitted last year and have been on a few skiing trips, roof rack and all. Mind you, can't see a family of 3 fitting that comfortably, especially if you all have your own skiing boots to take! As mentioned above, too much snow and you won't get vey far.
A pic from last year to whet you appettite!
Next year to get one there is a 5k gap in the price of the TVR to a nice 24k mile 997. I think a 4 or 4s.
Ron98 said:
Well this pic has sold it for me!
Next year to get one there is a 5k gap in the price of the TVR to a nice 24k mile 997. I think a 4 or 4s.
That is a great picture! However don't discount a good C2S - I run my C2S on Conti TS30P's in winter and it's rock solid in poor / cold conditions.Next year to get one there is a 5k gap in the price of the TVR to a nice 24k mile 997. I think a 4 or 4s.
Winter tyres make the 911 quite formidable, be sensible and you'll be fine. Another 4k miles round Europe over christmas and many snowy passes later all is well.
Even the C2S is fine given all the weight over the rear wheels. Once you're used to it it is remarkable.
2200m in Dolomites
sb
I worked in Hamburg all last year, the 911 was defo a all year car. but need to save up a bit more plus I am finding it hard to stick the 350 up for sail but I would love a few euro trips both summer and winnter. And were do you think the best for the cash skiing is mate? only ever skied in US / Canada with work.
I am make the same step to historical Porsche 964
Have been in 997( of good friend whi is 2 m and fits nicely)and you can fit to kds in the back no problem
The sense of occasion in a TVR is unbelievable und you will possible not have tha in any other car (was driving to Kitzbuehel in my T 350 one day when there was a supercar event - plenty of Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche - even a Veyron my car drew more attention as most others although we were just passing....)
The noise, the fear of going round damp corners (or whether your engine will last to 3000 mile round trip) - some I still miss some less so
I think pricewise TVRs have bootomed outr and will rather increase than decrease and you have a much rarer car
Build quality is in a different world but when things go wrong you can fix little with cheap parts (the porsches were generic VW parts fit atre a lot older than what you are looking for) whereas even in the T350 you can find a lot of cheap n cheerful parts - same is with service prices (more choice of good quality Porsche independents, though)
Its a different car - you'll buy and keep it for diferent merits I think (and if you have an M3 or so for a daily driver you probaly want long for anything else)
If you want the family friendly TVR experience what about a well sorted CERB - plenty out there for little money???
Have been in 997( of good friend whi is 2 m and fits nicely)and you can fit to kds in the back no problem
The sense of occasion in a TVR is unbelievable und you will possible not have tha in any other car (was driving to Kitzbuehel in my T 350 one day when there was a supercar event - plenty of Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche - even a Veyron my car drew more attention as most others although we were just passing....)
The noise, the fear of going round damp corners (or whether your engine will last to 3000 mile round trip) - some I still miss some less so
I think pricewise TVRs have bootomed outr and will rather increase than decrease and you have a much rarer car
Build quality is in a different world but when things go wrong you can fix little with cheap parts (the porsches were generic VW parts fit atre a lot older than what you are looking for) whereas even in the T350 you can find a lot of cheap n cheerful parts - same is with service prices (more choice of good quality Porsche independents, though)
Its a different car - you'll buy and keep it for diferent merits I think (and if you have an M3 or so for a daily driver you probaly want long for anything else)
If you want the family friendly TVR experience what about a well sorted CERB - plenty out there for little money???
griffgray said:
pete said:
Ron98 said:
Any one swooped a TVR for a 997?
I swapped from a Tuscan 4.3 (TVR Power rebuild) to a 997.1 GT3. It obviously wasn't as fast or light as the TVR, but it was a lot better put together. Also much easier to drive quickly, and it made a lovely noise rev'ing toward 9000rpm.After a year or so I swapped that for a 996 Turbo S, so I could put my young son in the back, and free up some cash to move house. Now the Turbo is back to being almost as quick as the Tuscan, but certainly goes around corners a lot better. My point of caution would be that neither car offers anything like the same sense of occasion as the Tuscan, nor the Griff I owned before it. However the trade-off is much better usability, and less time spent working on the car to keep it in top condition; I can now appreciate the TVR was like owning a classic car, albeit one built in 2003. The Porsche's are/were just as usable as my everyday BMW, but they're a lot more fun. An excellent compromise, I think.
I still miss the TVRs, but I don't have the funds or garage space to keep lots of cars for special occasions only! Buy the 997, and revel in its status as the sports car for all seasons.
Pete
Thinking of something to use on the road, in all weathers though, I'd take a 911.
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