Can the VIN tell a 944 TurboS from a Turbo?

Can the VIN tell a 944 TurboS from a Turbo?

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mr_yogi

Original Poster:

3,288 posts

270 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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What are the ways of identifing a genuine 944 Turbo S?

davyboy

746 posts

270 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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To be honest I dont think there is a car called the 944 Turbo S.

What specifically are you trying to find out?

I could write a very long response, but I think it would be easier if you tell me exactly what you want to know?

M030, 220bhp or 250bhp, bridge spoiler, Silver Rose etc

Dave

uktrucks

161 posts

262 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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The 944 Turbo of 1988/1989 had a number of model descriptions given to it[by the public, not Porsche] namely:-

Turbo "S"
Turbo "SE"
or sometimes
Silver Rose

A genuine 1988 built for 1989 model year 944 Turbo SE can usually be identified by the equipment levels:

Air Con
Limited Slip Diff code 220
Sports Seats
Sports Suspension code 030
Adjustable Suspension on front
Bigger brake calipers
Drop Forged Alloy Rims 16" with 9j on rear
Rubber rear spoiler---NEVER BRIDGE SPOILER

Your car had 996 wheels on from memory but other than that it was a full blown Turbo SE.

I saw a link somewhere, if I can find it I'll post it here

Cheers

Allan

>> Edited by uktrucks on Monday 20th December 18:05

mr_yogi

Original Poster:

3,288 posts

270 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Thanks Allan,
Unfortunately my car took a leap into the scenery last week after running over a greasy patch and the assessors were not aware of the S/ SE


Kristin

lali

5,340 posts

253 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Yowch!

I hope you and the car wernt too badly injured and your back on the road again soon...

always seems worse when things go wrong at this time of the year!

Buster44

487 posts

262 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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mr_yogi said:
Thanks Allan,
Unfortunately my car took a leap into the scenery last week after running over a greasy patch and the assessors were not aware of the S/ SE


Kristin



Does that mean that they're trying to back out of the claim, or are quibbling over the value? Sorry to hear your bad news - best of luck getting it sorted.

>> Edited by Buster44 on Monday 20th December 14:38

mr_yogi

Original Poster:

3,288 posts

270 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Don't think so, they just were not aware of what constitutes an "S" /"SE". The policy is for a "Turbo SE".

2alexcoo

80 posts

258 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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A quick Google brings up this link:

www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/4786/

Apparently the fact it's an S can be verified from the engine number, but not the VIN.

(S/SE are the same - S in USA, SE in UK)

uktrucks

161 posts

262 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Kristin
Point them in my direction, if they need confirmation on rarity and value.

I'm sure you still have all of my details ?

Allan

uktrucks

161 posts

262 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Kristin
Point them in my direction, if they need confirmation on rarity and value.

I'm sure you still have all of my details ?

Allan

cuneus

5,963 posts

257 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Interesting lot of (mis)information

Turbo SE was UK designation for Turbo S

Cars were only 1988

Chassis number must be WP0ZZZ95ZJN100001 to 1875 WITH an engine code of M44/52

uktrucks

161 posts

262 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Apart from the specifcs on Vin etc, I thought that was what I & others said ?
S / SE / etc
A

slim_boy_fat

735 posts

254 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Here I will chip in, why not everyone else has.

I thought the SE or S was the same as the Silver Rose, in which case it would be easy to spot because of the horrible sliver/pink paint colour and hideous tartan interior?

cuneus

5,963 posts

257 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Nope

the S / SE was made in other colurs

K27

186 posts

293 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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Cars here were as follows. In 88 S was an option. 89, 90 were all S but not called S. these most all came with Mo30 adjustable suspension, K26/8 turbo, LSD, Hardened 1st 2nd gears, S4 brakes and all colors.

>> Edited by K27 on Wednesday 22 December 02:20

slim_boy_fat

735 posts

254 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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K27 said:
Cars here were as follows. In 88 S was an option. 89, 90 were all S but not called S. these most all came with Mo30 adjustable suspension, K27/8 turbo, LSD, Hardened 1st 2nd gears, S4 brakes and all colors.


Excellent more misinformation, this is getting good.

All s but not called S means that there were not S..!!!!!!!

The 88-91 cars had a 26/8 KKK turbo
M030 was still an option on the suspention
Everything else above was standard.

Sunroof delete is the best option to have.

cuneus

5,963 posts

257 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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K27

they were never called S in the UK, not an option but a different car

K27/8 turbo: never in a 944


I'm going to lie down

steve 944t

143 posts

262 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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davyboy said:
To be honest I dont think there is a car called the 944 Turbo S

yes there is - you have seen one!
Lots of info here - www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/4786/

Although Porsche UK did not call it the Turbo S, they were apparently going to originally (according to an ex-Porsche mechanic I have spoken to). My car was supplied by Porsche UK and has a Turbo S (not SE) supplement to the handbook to cover the differences. It also has a Turbo S badge - could have been added later obviously, but I think not. Somewhere I have a copy of an early roadtest of then soon-to-be-released 944 Turbo S, badged as my car is. I have not found it since a house move, but am moving again in the new year so it should turn up.

However, as mentioned above, the Turbo S is nothing special - same spec as '89 Turbos but with the huge advantage of not having a sunroof

Steve

cuneus

5,963 posts

257 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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Think we need to some carbon dating on that S badge

steve 944t

143 posts

262 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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I guess I could cut it in half and count the growth rings