RUF 993

[xftdr]

Evening Fellow PH'ers.

What do we think of this in terms of future values?

http://www.thesupercarrooms.co.uk/car-details/pors...

[mollytherocker]

I dont believe that is a RUF. It is a 993 turbo uprated with some RUF bits, an entirely different thing.

However, it looks like a lovely thing and if its been done well etc, it could certainly continue to rise as it is.

[bigunit00]

Makes paying a bit more for the real thing that bit more appealing

http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/ruf...

[LaurasOtherHalf]

mollytherocker said:

I dont believe that is a RUF. It is a 993 turbo uprated with some RUF bits, an entirely different thing.

+ read the small print.

41k mile car? Oh you mean 41k since the ruf engine rebuild! Easy mistake to make eh, indicative of everything that's wrong with the air cooled market at present. A fool and his money.....

[IMI A]

bigunit00 said:

Makes paying a bit more for the real thing that bit more appealing

http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/ruf...

Thats a 964 anniversary which has been modded by Ruf. It does not have a Ruf chassis nos hence tough to call it the real thing. Would agree if it was a Ruf chassis.

[g7jhp]

It's a 993 upgraded with 996 bits!

- 996 steering wheel
- 996 GT3 seats

[jfp]

They are both mongrels, not the real job....

[TB993tt]

You guys are wrong on this one. The 993 Ruf Turbo R was not a Ruf chassis model, that would be the 993 CTR2.
Any 993 with the 490PS engine conversion was deemed (by Ruf) a Turbo R. Any other Ruf bolt ons were purely optional.

[IMI A]

TB993tt said:

You guys are wrong on this one. The 993 Ruf Turbo R was not a Ruf chassis model, that would be the 993 CTR2.
Any 993 with the 490PS engine conversion was deemed (by Ruf) a Turbo R. Any other Ruf bolt ons were purely optional.

Agreed but you'd be better off with a CTR i.e. real Ruf chassis nos whether it be the original yellowbird, 964 based or 993 CTR 2. These two cars are just modded cars albeit by one of the best in the business.

[TB993tt]

IMI A said:

Agreed but you'd be better off with a CTR i.e. real Ruf chassis nos whether it be the original yellowbird, 964 based or 993 CTR 2. These two cars are just modded cars albeit by one of the best in the business.

Yellowbird was based on 3.2 Carrera not 964 (apart from the one made for Beddor in the US) I'm not disagreeing that you may be "better off" but the car in question is called a 993 Ruf Turbo R by Ruf

[TB993tt]

It is interesting since (like most on PH) this thread heads is about values.

When people had these cars built I'm pretty certain they weren't thinking about whether a Ruf chassis number was going to make them some money on resale in fact many countries would not allow Ruf chassis numbered cars.
I bought a CTR in the early nineties which was one of the few (ultra rare ) cars which was built without the Ruf chassis number (I think there were 6 of them) the original owner, a French guy, had spent a lot of money the car, it had all carbon panels and was a beast but of course was not a real Ruf CTR although Alois would probably beg to differ....lol

Edited by TB993tt on Sunday 30th November 14:00

[IMI A]

TB993tt said:

It is interesting since (like most on PH) this thread heads off immediately in the direction of values.

When people had these cars built I'm pretty certain they weren't thinking about whether a Ruf chassis number was going to make them some money on resale in fact many countries would not allow Ruf chassis numbered cars.
I bought a CTR in the early nineties which was one of the few (ultra rare ) cars which was built without the Ruf chassis number (I think there were 6 of them) the original owner, a French guy, had spent a lot of money the car, it had all carbon panels and was a beast but of course was not a real Ruf CTR although Alois would probably beg to differ....lol

Bit of a grey area but in terms of values silly as the Ruf chassis CTRs are I expect worth north of £500k nowadays. Mind if there were 6 CTRs built without Ruf chassis nos thats bit of a story in itself and doubt they'd be cheap. I love the original CTR! A car ahead of its time.

[TB993tt]

IMI A said:

I love the original CTR! A car ahead of its time.

Engine designed by Reinhold Schmirler, the first road Mezger with parallel turbos and using for the first time advanced electronics tuned by using MAP sensor outputs and manually adjustable boost pressure (pretty much the same as how Protomotive tune there big power stuff today) - unfortunately because of the technology back then the CTR did about 10mpg, stunk of petrol the whole time, idled at 1300rpm and was generally pretty unruly.... but an icon and hitting 213mph in 1988 certainly spurred on a few young spunkers into a life of tuned Porsches

[IMI A]

TB993tt said:

IMI A said:

I love the original CTR! A car ahead of its time.

Engine designed by Reinhold Schmirler, the first road Mezger with parallel turbos and using for the first time advanced electronics tuned by using MAP sensor outputs and fixed adjustable boost pressure (pretty much the same as how Protomotive tune there big power stuff today) - unfortunately because of the technology back then the CTR did about 10mpg, stunk of petrol the whole time, idled at 1300rpm and was generally pretty unruly.... but an icon and hitting 213mph in 1988 certainly spurred on a few young spunkers into a life of tuned Porsches

Fabulous. I remember a CTR turned up to a magazine test (Sport Auto??) with lots of Italian exotica on display and blew all the competition away. Really put Ruf on the map and I doubt they'd be where they are today without that car. A watershed moment in Ruf's history.