XPEL or SUNTEK for my Pride and Joy?
XPEL or SUNTEK for my Pride and Joy?
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tjlees

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1,382 posts

266 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Hi

Just about to have my pride and joy cover in protective film.

It was going to be EXPEL but the installer is recommending SUNTEK.

XPEL https://www.xpel.com/products/xpel_ultimate_paint_...
SUNTEK http://www.suntekfilms.com/paintprotection/suntek-...


Anyone used SUNTEK? What do you think?

jredram

133 posts

160 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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No idea about Suntek but had Expel fitted 10k miles and 12 months ago on 981 Box S- not a mark or swirl on it- wonderful stuff.

JonV12V

212 posts

174 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Had Xpel ultimate recently fitted by Armourfend Ltd and appears to be very good fit and finish and nigh on invisible. No experiemce of SunTek but understand its popular in the US.

If your using Armourfend, they also spoke about using SunTek when I originally contacted them, but actually ended up fitting Xpel Ultimate ppf.

theAmerican

105 posts

151 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Suntek.

XPel's had its day, much like Ventureshield before that; of you want the best right now it's Suntek hands down buddy

rosino

1,395 posts

201 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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I was told Suntek less orange peel, glossier but thinner. Xpel is definitely thicker so more protection on motorway and track but you lose that gloss.

That said I have seen the latter on a Carrera GT and could not see any significant orange peel...

At the moment I am leaning for suntek but will take a look at examples of both in real life before deciding for my new toy coming in a few weeks.

TheAnimal

3,473 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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A number of film fitters have come online in the last few years. Who are the recommended fitters in the UK now according to you guys?

Maxige

327 posts

233 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Topaz Detailing, no contest!

http://www.topazlondon.com/

sidsideways

417 posts

184 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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I use Topaz and my Expel has no orange peel and is extremely shiny so I think thickness of film wins.

theAmerican

105 posts

151 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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rosino said:
I was told Suntek less orange peel, glossier but thinner. Xpel is definitely thicker so more protection on motorway and track but you lose that gloss.

That said I have seen the latter on a Carrera GT and could not see any significant orange peel...

At the moment I am leaning for suntek but will take a look at examples of both in real life before deciding for my new toy coming in a few weeks.
Hi there. XPel is thicker because it's adhesive layer is thicker, the actual film thickness is the same as Suntek.

theAmerican

105 posts

151 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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TheAnimal said:
A number of film fitters have come online in the last few years. Who are the recommended fitters in the UK now according to you guys?
Paintshield are the best and use Suntek; Draykefields and Boundarycarcare also use Suntek and are bit cheaper so I'm told.

tjlees

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1,382 posts

266 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Yep I was told the Suntek has less orange peel .. And since this one is my daily I'm tempted to go for it!

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

273 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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theAmerican said:
Hi there. XPel is thicker because it's adhesive layer is thicker, the actual film thickness is the same as Suntek.
I don't think that's right. 6,5mm plays 8mm. And the adhesive on XPEL is more aggressive. Not sure it's any thicker though.

jackwood

2,963 posts

237 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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I think you mean 0.65mm v 0.8mm

8mm thick is nearly a centimetre!

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

273 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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jackwood said:
I think you mean 0.65mm v 0.8mm

8mm thick is nearly a centimetre!
Sorry quite right, but you get my point.

theAmerican

105 posts

151 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Alpinestars said:
theAmerican said:
Hi there. XPel is thicker because it's adhesive layer is thicker, the actual film thickness is the same as Suntek.
I don't think that's right. 6,5mm plays 8mm. And the adhesive on XPEL is more aggressive. Not sure it's any thicker though.
Hi there. Both films have a 0.5mil self-healing topcoat on top of a 6mil polyurethane layer. Suntek then has 1.5mil thick adhesive layer vs XPel's which is 1.6mil if I remember correctly.

Also the units are mil = 1000th of an inch and not metric

Jerry

rbh

293 posts

161 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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Hi there any recommended installers in south west London ?

pjp98z

2 posts

141 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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In the interest of full discolsure, I work for XPEL. My intention here is not to direct you towards one product or antoher, only to clear up some misinformation.

XPEL Ultimate film is 8.1-8.5 mil thick (there is always a little variance). That is 1.6 mil adhesive, 6 mil urethane, and .5 mil clearcoat at minimum. SunTek TC PPF is 6.5-7.0 mil mil thick. The difference in thickness is in the urethane base layer of the film.

Both are high quality products, and you have obviously done your homework if you've narroweed it down to these two contenders.

There are quite a few factors involved with choosing a film, some are visible right away, some are more related to long-term durability, some are financial motivators, and some are more how the film looks on paper (film specs, warranty coverage, etc). My advice would be not to take anyone's word for it and to see side by side demonstrations with your own two eyes before making a decision.

Just as important as than the brand of film, if not more, is choosing the most competent installer. The best film in the world can't compensate for a mediocre installer. Defititely see in-person examples of their work, as a picture from across the room doesn't do much to highlight tiny installation issues.

tjlees

Original Poster:

1,382 posts

266 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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^^^^ Good info and advice

Yes - i'm actually going to do that Frid/Sat.

theAmerican

105 posts

151 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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pjp98z said:
In the interest of full discolsure, I work for XPEL. My intention here is not to direct you towards one product or antoher, only to clear up some misinformation.

XPEL Ultimate film is 8.1-8.5 mil thick (there is always a little variance). That is 1.6 mil adhesive, 6 mil urethane, and .5 mil clearcoat at minimum. SunTek TC PPF is 6.5-7.0 mil mil thick. The difference in thickness is in the urethane base layer of the film.

Both are high quality products, and you have obviously done your homework if you've narroweed it down to these two contenders.

There are quite a few factors involved with choosing a film, some are visible right away, some are more related to long-term durability, some are financial motivators, and some are more how the film looks on paper (film specs, warranty coverage, etc). My advice would be not to take anyone's word for it and to see side by side demonstrations with your own two eyes before making a decision.

Just as important as than the brand of film, if not more, is choosing the most competent installer. The best film in the world can't compensate for a mediocre installer. Defititely see in-person examples of their work, as a picture from across the room doesn't do much to highlight tiny installation issues.
Look man quit the BS and misinformation. This is exactly the same type if horses**t you tried to pull back when I had my shop in Texas. If you're gonna add the adhesive thickness to one then do it with the other.

XPel = 6.0mil without or 8.1mil+ with adhesive
SunTek = 6.0mil without or 8.0mil+ with adhesive

The datasheets available on each website confirm.

tjlees

Original Poster:

1,382 posts

266 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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edited to add more detail



Edited by tjlees on Wednesday 3rd December 22:36