991.2 GT3 and GT3RS to be offered in manual.
991.2 GT3 and GT3RS to be offered in manual.
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pete a

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3,799 posts

213 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/industry-new...


Andreas P interviewed reveals that the next batch of GT cars will be offered with PDK or manual gearboxes.

g7jhp

7,033 posts

267 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Lightweight over power is a step in the right direction!

bigmowley

2,650 posts

205 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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All good so far. Hate turbos. Just make a few more of them next time please

Richie200

2,013 posts

238 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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g7jhp said:
Lightweight over power is a step in the right direction!
Absolutely; I'd quite happily lose 50BHP for -200kg. Can't see it though with all the regs now regarding nannying electrics, safety systems, tyre px sensors...
Alfa, with the 4c have the right idea. Just imagine one of those with a 400bhp Boxer engine smile

pete a

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3,799 posts

213 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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Agree that weight saving is a great idea, I thought the bigger news was the 992 GT3 and 992 RS is coming and will be offered as a manual NA car.

992 GT3 manual 4.0ltr 500hp sounds good.


Scooty100

1,469 posts

145 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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pete a said:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/industry-new...


Andreas P interviewed reveals that the next batch of GT cars will be offered with PDK or manual gearboxes.
Ohhh now this will put the cat amongst the pigeons. Where's APOLO 1 when you need him ?

APOLO1

5,391 posts

223 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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pete a said:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/industry-new...


Andreas P interviewed reveals that the next batch of GT cars will be offered with PDK or manual gearboxes.
When you say next batch, do you mean the next model after the 991, also be interesting to see how the RWS, will work with a stick shift, for me this is what makes the GT3 and the TTS, 918, the RWS

pete a

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213 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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APOLO1 said:
When you say next batch, do you mean the next model after the 991, also be interesting to see how the RWS, will work with a stick shift, for me this is what makes the GT3 and the TTS, 918, the RWS
Hi Apolo

Well yes, I'm referring to the 992 GT cars as the 991 range is drawing to a close this year so there wont be a 991.2 on any model as it's going straight to 992 production, well that's my understanding of the situation?

APOLO1

5,391 posts

223 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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pete a said:
Hi Apolo

Well yes, I'm referring to the 992 GT cars as the 991 range is drawing to a close this year so there wont be a 991.2 on any model as it's going straight to 992 production, well that's my understanding of the situation?
may I enquire what you mean by 992 to 991....my understanding this year, is the FL and some new engines, that's not 992, when I say 992 I mean like a platform change like 996 to 997 etc......

Scott Parker

798 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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APOLO1 said:
pete a said:
Hi Apolo

Well yes, I'm referring to the 992 GT cars as the 991 range is drawing to a close this year so there wont be a 991.2 on any model as it's going straight to 992 production, well that's my understanding of the situation?
may I enquire what you mean by 992 to 991....my understanding this year, is the FL and some new engines, that's not 992, when I say 992 I mean like a platform change like 996 to 997 etc......
I think it was wrongly quoted sometime ago in the press that the gen 2 would in fact become the 992 and not the 991.2. With so much bullst and rumours going around in the press nowadays who knows whats right or wrong!

APOLO1

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223 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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Scott Parker said:
I think it was wrongly quoted sometime ago in the press that the gen 2 would in fact become the 992 and not the 991.2. With so much bullst and rumours going around in the press nowadays who knows whats right or wrong!
lot of smoke around at the moment..S

pete a

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Thursday 7th May 2015
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APOLO1 said:
may I enquire what you mean by 992 to 991....my understanding this year, is the FL and some new engines, that's not 992, when I say 992 I mean like a platform change like 996 to 997 etc......
As Scott said I saw recently that the next turbocharged cars would be designated as 992 and not 991.2, I may be wrong on this? Whatever the designation 992 or 991.2 there will be a batch of GT cars to come it seems according to AP.

With regards to 997 from 996 the basic platform was the same, new interior and exterior design but not to much different
chassis wise, in fact 996 to 997 was really the mother of all facelifts and then new engines at 997.2 stage.


graeme4130

3,955 posts

210 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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I think that giving an option to have either manual or PDK will show just how die hard stick shift customers really do like the manual option, or whether, as Ferrari found out, everyone loves to profess their undying love of the stick, but PDK orders still come up as the majority.
We'll have to wait and see

keep it lit

3,388 posts

196 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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APOLO1 said:
When you say next batch, do you mean the next model after the 991, also be interesting to see how the RWS, will work with a stick shift, for me this is what makes the GT3 and the TTS, 918, the RWS
do you have a business interest with the RWS side of things by chance?

mollytherocker

14,458 posts

238 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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Great news if its true. Porsche are listening for good reason.

They see a booming market in air cooled analogue cars and 100k+ special builds on the rise.

Porsche know their customers, whether it be Macan diesel types or those that want a 'proper 911'.

Every credit.

Yellow491

3,392 posts

148 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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Manual version deff on the way,what has rws got to do with manual,is it because the engine is to revvy!
Apparently the manual will be significantly lighter, 7 bespoke ratios,hopefully no rws.

MDL111

8,875 posts

206 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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graeme4130 said:
I think that giving an option to have either manual or PDK will show just how die hard stick shift customers really do like the manual option, or whether, as Ferrari found out, everyone loves to profess their undying love of the stick, but PDK orders still come up as the majority.
We'll have to wait and see
I was close getting an RS, but in the end decided against for 2 reasons (i) it is a little too expensive for me right now and I was not sure I'd not rather have a used Speciale instead at similar (say 10% more) price point and (ii) it is only available as pdk (therefore the Speciale comparisons in my mind as I do like the theatre of a Ferrari). If it had been available as manual, that would have probably swung it and I'd have taken it - esp. given that I do not do track days and ultimate speed for me is pretty much irrelevant. So I will be one of the ones who will certainly pick the manual option if they make it available on a GT 911. Having said that, I suspect the majority will order it as PDK and only a minority (many of them on Pistonheads and similar forums) will go for the manual option.

APOLO1

5,391 posts

223 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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Yellow491 said:
Manual version deff on the way,what has rws got to do with manual,is it because the engine is to revvy!
Apparently the manual will be significantly lighter, 7 bespoke ratios,hopefully no rws.
no doubt that there will be the likes of a stick GT4, GTS, but on the halo stuff like the RS and GT3, it will never happen imho, every second counts, needs the tech on the back end...to much of an advantage to give it up


georgeq

110 posts

155 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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Big news but not unexpected. Would love to bag myself a bargain GT4 when the numerous PDK protest buyers switch back to the manual GT3. spin

Nimerino

302 posts

142 months

Friday 25th December 2015
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Reviving an old thread, I know, but it seemed unnecessary to start a new one.

Got myself on the list for a 991.2 GT3. If it is indeed the last naturally aspirated 911, it's the only car I would imagine swapping my 997 GTS for, and though it will be a sizeable investment for me, I want to have bought one car new in my life. There is an option to buy a 991.1 GT3 in the meantime, but I will likely hold off as I am enjoying the GTS immensely and want to feel like I'm 'done' with it before moving on.

I'm still very much worried about the 911 'feel' being lost in the newer cars, and the recent review of the 991.2 Carrera in EVO did nothing to assuage my fears. Any input from knowledgeable owners of 991.1 GT3/GT3RSs would be much appreciated.