991.2 driving impressions
991.2 driving impressions
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danp

Original Poster:

1,650 posts

291 months

Monday 9th November 2015
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First (mini) review I've seen of anyone that's actually driven it, Henry Catchpole (of Evo) certainly liked it: http://youtu.be/Ft6MbJsH83Q

av185

20,464 posts

156 months

Monday 9th November 2015
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Looks ok in Gulf blue.....

nigestar

67 posts

140 months

Monday 9th November 2015
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IMO that colour/wheels combo look crap together. neither bold nor classic.

but seems as if 991.2 could defy the critics. time will tell

wtdoom

3,742 posts

237 months

Monday 9th November 2015
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Burn it frown

V8KSN

4,713 posts

213 months

Monday 9th November 2015
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I thought the exhaust pipes were in the middle, in that vid they are either side of the number plate.

Maybe I am imagining it.

I quite like the look of it though, like the 991.1 range it looks a really smooth and clean design.

Shewie

560 posts

219 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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V8KSN said:
I thought the exhaust pipes were in the middle, in that vid they are either side of the number plate.

Maybe I am imagining it.

I quite like the look of it though, like the 991.1 range it looks a really smooth and clean design.
Those are the standard exhausts in the vid. The optional sports exhaust exits in the middle.

Wudee

269 posts

173 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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this is going to hurt 991.1 values. Better steering, more bhp and torque, new interior. Nice car

Robbo66

3,930 posts

262 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Looks a good GT /shopping car, the automotive equivalent of quorn.
The US will love it, especially the trophy wife at the Mall.


APOLO1

5,391 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Had a sit and look round the 4S version last week, nice place to be will make a good DD, lot of torque for a 3.0 engine.

ras62

1,115 posts

185 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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I'm struggling to think of the last time a motoring hack had anything bad to say about Porsche or Ferrari. Until the new model comes out when previously unmentioned issues are miraculously fixed and portrayed as a major breakthrough.
They may as well be reviewing a new laptop or operating system. Yawn.

Koln-RS

4,121 posts

241 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Porsche has a successful formula.

Pretty much each new generation of the '911' has had advances/developments/improvements over the outgoing model, despite protestations from traditionalists.

And, Porsche are really clever - always having a new 'headline' model to tempt customers to trade up. Those GTSs are already out of date eek

I'm sure, like the 991.1, it will be the best in class, but for me, 911 ownership would not be complete without a classic aircooled model parked next to it in the garage wink

sidicks

25,218 posts

250 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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0-60mph in 3.7s is pretty special for the 'S' model...

BMCG

484 posts

165 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Given the significant regard I hold for Henry's opinion, these first impressions are distinctly positive.

Porsche yet again advances the 911...this time even overcoming (shock/horror) a turbo in the Carrera.

Noise. Enhanced.
Handling. Advanced.
Engine. Lively.

Great to see the evolution of an automotive hallmark continue aplomb

(and yes..this is counter to the negative nellies...but ffs...celebrating achievement aint a bad thing...)



LordHaveMurci

12,336 posts

198 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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How many owners will be boasting about their new '911 Turbo' I wonder.

Richyboy

3,749 posts

246 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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ras62 said:
I'm struggling to think of the last time a motoring hack had anything bad to say about Porsche or Ferrari. Until the new model comes out when previously unmentioned issues are miraculously fixed and portrayed as a major breakthrough.
They may as well be reviewing a new laptop or operating system. Yawn.
LOL this!!!! I was thinking this when watching the evo video.

Its hype hype hype until the next model comes out then a dose of reality.

Then back to hype when its firmly in the used market.

Buster73

5,610 posts

182 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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LordHaveMurci said:
How many owners will be boasting about their new '911 Turbo' I wonder.
I'd hazard a guess at not one.

swimd

350 posts

150 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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BMCG said:
Given the significant regard I hold for Henry's opinion, these first impressions are distinctly positive.

Porsche yet again advances the 911...this time even overcoming (shock/horror) a turbo in the Carrera.

Noise. Enhanced.
Handling. Advanced.
Engine. Lively.

Great to see the evolution of an automotive hallmark continue aplomb

(and yes..this is counter to the negative nellies...but ffs...celebrating achievement aint a bad thing...)
It is quite remarkable that Porsche always seems to be able to trump the previous generation with some sort of perk.
In the case of the 991.1 it was the wider front axle and RWS where applicable, in the case of the 991.2 many reviewers report that the steering is noticeably improved. There's no denying hat the 'ring times are also rather impressive. His comment on the sound was interesting because the shot following it did have hints of an aircooled engine to it.

Koln-RS said:
Porsche has a successful formula.

Pretty much each new generation of the '911' has had advances/developments/improvements over the outgoing model, despite protestations from traditionalists.

And, Porsche are really clever - always having a new 'headline' model to tempt customers to trade up. Those GTSs are already out of date eek

I'm sure, like the 991.1, it will be the best in class, but for me, 911 ownership would not be complete without a classic aircooled model parked next to it in the garage wink
Nail on head. A pre-73 car for the sunny weekends and a current-gen C2S as a daily hack would suit me just fine.

V8KSN

4,713 posts

213 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Robbo66 said:
Looks a good GT /shopping car, the automotive equivalent of quorn.
The US will love it, especially the trophy wife at the Mall.
Thats a bit harsh hehe


sidicks said:
0-60mph in 3.7s is pretty special for the 'S' model...
Yeah I agree, that is pretty awesome!

ORD

18,186 posts

156 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Are my ears broken? The engine just sounded like a st version of the 991.1 - flatter, no mechanical noise, all exhaust rather than induction sound, less character and no crescendo (despite what Catchpole says).

I also read the Autocar mini-review in disbelief - everything objective that it says can be summarised as "worse than the 991.1" (engine has less character, worse throttle response, etc) but they still fawn over it.

Porsche could put a diesel V8 in the 911 and it would still be called an improvement.

RankAmateur

252 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Plenty of reviews out now (where is yours, PH??!)

Many of them very positive:
Autocar - http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/porsche/911-ca...
Evo - http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-carrera/16923/wat...
What Car - http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/porsche/911/2016-p...
AutoExpress - http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/911/93392/por...

Some less convinced:
Car - http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/porsche/p...
TopGear magazine - http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/911-carrera-s-2...

Overall it looks like the argument is being won by the positive camp. Yes the 991.2 might sound a smidge less ferocious than the 991.1, but it more than makes up for that through the added performance, torque profile, steering feel and chassis setup.